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Michael Moore likes the U.S. 'to some extent'

I'm still waiting for our Millionaire Hero Mr. Moore to build that Shoe Factory in Flint with his ill-gotten gains.
Here he states by implication that American Businesses are really religious crusaders. Moore is a true Capitalist pig in every sense of the word.
In the interview, Moore also blasted Bush's policy toward Iraq, saying the president started the war for religious reasons.
The filmmaker claims the war was begun only to make it easier for U.S. corporations to do business in other countries.
Michael Moore, the documentary filmmaker who was booed at the Academy Awards ceremony for criticizing President Bush, said in a recent interview that he likes the U.S. "to some extent" and believes that "only a handful of people have the power to control the country."


Michael Moore and wife Kathleen Glynn (photo: Oscar.com)

Winning an Oscar last month for his anti-gun film "Bowling for Columbine," Moore told the star-studded crowd that "we live in a time with fictitious election results that elect fictitious presidents. We live in a time when we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.''

Moore went on to exclaim, "We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you! Shame on you!''

His comments were greeted by a chorus of loud boos from the audience of 3,500.

In an interview with the Japanese Shukan Post, Moore was asked: "You do not seem to like the U.S., do you?"

Moore responded, "I like America to some extent. ... Americans are simple and clear. They are charming people. You will understand how good an individual American is. What I am not satisfied with America is that the nation cannot control the government and economy. Only a handful of people have the power to control the country."

In the interview, Moore also blasted Bush's policy toward Iraq, saying the president started the war for religious reasons.

"The only legacy the war with Iraq will bring is hatred throughout the world for the U.S.," Moore told the paper. "Under President Clinton, the U.S. was not alienated from the world. The Clinton administration did not take a hard-line policy toward the Middle East; rather, he tried to establish peace in the region.

"President Bush, however, has destroyed it. He identified his military forces as crusaders and started the war with Iraq as a mission of God. When I look at his face when he makes such speeches, I feel that the U.S. has become a fearful country."

The filmmaker claims the war was begun only to make it easier for U.S. corporations to do business in other countries.

"The U.S. government claims to bring democracy to Iraq," Moore said. "However, no country in the world takes such an assertion seriously. It is an illusion."

Sounding strangely similar to an anti-government-schools free-market advocate, Moore declared that the U.S. public-school system had failed, as he explained why he thought the American people don't understand how the 9-11 attacks "affected the world."

Moore told the Shukan Post: "The U.S. public education system has problems. Students are released into society without learning enough. According to a survey conducted by National Geographic using samples of youths aged from 18 to 25 years old, 85 percent of them did not know where Iran or Iraq were. Surprisingly enough, 11 percent of them could not point correctly where the U.S. was on map. Can you believe it? It is just difficult for these ignorant youths to understand international politics."

True to form, Moore called Bush "a puppet" of "neo-conservative aides such as Rumsfeld or Cheney," who he claims are controlling the president.

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What's the US is not 22.Apr.2003 12:35

troll bait

This article has got me thinkin' about the US, in particular what it says it is that it really is not. You see, I also like certain things about the US, but it's certainly not the beacon for the world that it likes to claim it is.

For example, Americans when asked seem to be proudest of their so-called "freedom". America, the land of the free. While it's true that the US is more free than some other dictatorships, one can't logically call a country with 2 million people in jail (one out of every 140 people locked up in prison.) free. But the lack of freedom becomes even more clear when one realizes that the vast bulk of them are locked up, not for hurting or stealing from someone else, but simply for doing what they want to do with their own bodies. The lack of freedom to do drugs is symptomatic of a society that severely restricts freedom. America is not free.

Certainly, America doesn't seem very free to a gay couple who cannot legally celebrate their lifetime love with official marriage. Nor does America seem free to someone who wants to hike on public land without paying a fee. We're not free to ride without a seatbelt. We are forced by threat of arms to pay money to the government. Where does the claim of "freedom" come from? America is not free in any real sense.

How about the phrase "justice for all", so well known from the "pledge of allegiance". (Is freedom forcing children to swear allegiance to a piece of cloth?) Again the reality of America in no way lives up to its ideal. Does justice for all apply to Mike Hawash, in jail without accusation of a crime? Economic injustice is rampant in the US; legal justice only applies to those with money, the right skin color, and a good lawyer. So justice isn't anything for America to claim, either.

So if the US is neither free nor just, what are its bragging rights exactly? I guess it doesn't sound as good to say, "America is more free than some places, really," or to brag that it's "pretty just, most of the time."

What about democracy, "government of the people, by the people, and for the people"? That seems like something that America could be proud of. But again the reality doesn't match the ideal. Corruption, greed, and raw power politics run the country. Ask Paul Wellstone (oops, he's dead.) Secrecy, the code of Cheney, is the order of the day. The people can't be trusted to know what government is doing, so I guess we don't have government "by the people". America is governed by the rich, by corporations, by powerful aristocratic families. America is in no way democratic.

So what's left? All the ideals of America have been lost, corrupted, destroyed. The idea of America is bankrupt. It's time to start over again, taking what we do like, and ditching the rest. Building a new system that is closer to free, closer to just, and closer to democratic, in practice, not just in words. Finally, that is the thing I like best about America, that it was founded in the hope of building a better world. That hope is what I will carry forward as we go on beyond America.

Michael Moore's Oscar Comments 22.Apr.2003 14:09

a Moore reader

Please see Michael Moore's comments on the Oscar night presentation he gave at  http://www.michaelmoore.com

Several of his observatios directly contradict what the inflammatory writer asserts above.