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Poor People
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oh yeah 10.Apr.2003 20:24

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I think I see that little boy with no limbs there dancing for joy.

you must be desperate 10.Apr.2003 20:28

pre-dictive PNAC

"The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial AMERICAN FORCE PRESENCE in the gulf TRANSCENDS THE ISSUE OF THE REGIME OF SADDAM HUSSEIN."



- The Zionazi Project for the New American Century
- September 2000, Page 14
www.newamericancentury.org


"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - LIKE A NEW PEARL HABOR!"
-- The Zionazi Project for the New American Century
- September 2000, Page 51
www.newamericancentury.org

get real 10.Apr.2003 21:56

lemon

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." Those are the words I have heard protestors read, and chant, from the justice center many times. Those of you, however, without the stomach for what it takes to live those words would have let Saddam continue violating the basic human rights of his people. Now that our troops are doing something about Saddam, you can't seem to understand how the military is protecting us or our rights. Well, go back to that first statement by MLK. By protecting the rights of others, we are protecting our rights as well. We are protecting the concept of human rights. We cannot, and should not, wait until the enemy is on our own shores before we take action. Are we projecting military force in the Middle East? Of course we are. It is a dangerous place in the world. You don't see us threatening Norway or Finland because they don't threaten us with Holy Wars or suicide attacks. Are we in the Middle East for some potential profit. Probably. Peace and security come through power. Power comes through wealth. We are powerful because we are wealthy. Oil and profit are no trivial matter. Both are linked to the security this nation provides to everyone who would burn its flag.

The crime here is not that we invaded Iraq. The crime is that we had to; that innocent people were killed or maimed in the process. The crime is that too often we have stood by and let this happen. We have a historic opportunity to do great work in an honorable nation. I'm sorry for all of you who are too afraid to step up and see that.

'POOR' people--that's a laugh . . . 10.Apr.2003 22:12

they sure wouldn't be RICH--or would they?

The photographs tell the story... media manipulation on a grand scale. Yes, the occupation has begun.

 http://dc.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=63743&group=webcast

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Staged "Liberation" media event?
by against occupation 5:43am Thu Apr 10 '03 (Modified on 5:03pm Thu Apr 10 '03)

April 6th: Iraqi National Congress founder, Ahmed Chalabi is flown into the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah by the Pentagon. Chalabi, along with 700 fighters of his "Free Iraqi Forces" are airlifted aboard four massive C17 military transport planes. Chalabi and the INC are Washington favorites to head the new Iraqi government. A photograph is taken of Chalabi and members of his Free Iraqi Forces militia as they arrive in Nasiriyah.

April 9th: One of the "most memorable images of the war" is created when U.S. troops pull down the statue of Saddam Hussein in Fardus Square. Oddly enough... a photograph is taken of a man who bears an uncanny resemblance to one of Chalabi's militia members... he is near Fardus Square to greet the Marines. How many members of the pro-American Free Iraqi Forces were in and around Fardus Square as the statue of Saddam came tumbling down?

The up close action video of the statue being destroyed is broadcast around the world as proof of a massive uprising. Still photos grabbed off of Reuters show a long-shot view of Fardus Square... it's empty save for the U.S. Marines, the International Press, and a small handful of Iraqis. There are no more than 200 people in the square at best. The Marines have the square sealed off and guarded by tanks. A U.S. mechanized vehicle is used to pull the statue of Saddam from it's base. The entire event is being hailed as an equivalent of the Berlin Wall falling... but even a quick glance of the long-shot photo shows something more akin to a carefully constructed media event tailored for the television cameras.

More info on the propaganda ploy:
 http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID66/17554.html#1

'POOR' people--that's a laugh . . .
'POOR' people--that's a laugh . . .

Get Real! 10.Apr.2003 22:21

Woodsman

"The photographs tell the story"

Anyone who thinks that is the same person is on some good LSD and Crank...

where is that cartoon published? 10.Apr.2003 23:20

sssss

per usual, freepers don't post citations and I can't read the scribbly crap that is a signature. I'd like to know who the artist is and where it's published.

To all, please dog people when they don't provide citation. It's in everyone's best interest.

to 'Woodsman' RE: photos--- 10.Apr.2003 23:30

small axe

"on some good LSD and Crank..."

--and *you* would know about such stuff?

take *another* look at the photographs . . .

 http://162.42.211.226/article2842.htm (infoclearinghouse)

this shows the 'huge' crowd clearly and has some interesting points to make about it.

Funny how a crowd of 1 million protestors anti-war barely rates a mention, yet a few US stooge-plants and a handful of Iraqis gets hours and hours of groundhog day re-runs.

and then there is a nice article about the psyops operation at

 http://www.voxfux.com

also--

In a two-day period before the claim of victory was made by the mainstream press, these events occurred:

1)The Russian Embassy convoy was "accidentally" attacked by US Military leaving Baghdad.

2)US Military "accidentally" attacked the hotel where independent journalists were located, killing three.

3) Al Jazeera website was hacked and no English version is yet available.

4) Russian Aeronautics website stopped publishing military activities from Iraq and sited one reason as "we have no right to give away "top secret" information," and this was immediately following the meeting between Condoleezza Rice and Russian leaders.

5) Red Cross discontinued their efforts due to overwhelming numbers of dead and wounded.

Sure looks like the US simply cut-off the opposing news reports under threat of death and then claimed the 'war' was over.

great 11.Apr.2003 01:45

heimdallr

"Are we in the Middle East for some potential profit. Probably. Peace and security come through power. Power comes through wealth. We are powerful because we are wealthy."

I've never seen a more blatantly imperialist statement in my life.

More immeasurable Iraqui gratitude 11.Apr.2003 03:23

I. Protest

200 Iraqis Storm Their Embassy in Iran

TEHRAN, Iran - About 200 Iraqis stormed their embassy in the Iranian capital Friday morning, smashing photographs of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) and shouting against both the missing Iraqi leader and the possibility the United States would run the government that replaces him.

Police said no Iraqi diplomats had been in the building in central Tehran since Thursday. About a dozen police were guarding the embassy Friday, too few to hold back the angry crowd.

"No Saddam! No U.S. puppet regime! We want freedom!" the crowd chanted as it smashed windows, furniture and the Saddam portraits. The scene was similar to television images from Baghdad in recent days showing Iraqis storming government and ruling party offices and destroying other symbols of Saddam and his regime...

(snip)

 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030411/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_iraqi_embassy&cid=540&ncid=716

Is it just me, or are the ones we don't have tanks pointed right at, not quite as happy to see us as those we do...?