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Another Downtown Business Supporting the War

As Americans, we are all entitled to our own opinions and the right to voice these opinions. As consumers, we should support those who support the same causes. We should also boycott those who do not. This is about one business who supports the war and not the anti-war protesters.
If you are against the war, I believe it is important to not support businesses that are pro-Bush and pro-war. Here is one such business.
Thursday evening, my wife and friend decided to stop into The Tugboat for a drink and use of their bathroom after a long march. I had a sign but it was folded inside of itself so that noone could read it. Very few people were in the place. The bartender approached us, informed us that he was expecting a large group so please take the sigh outside. This didn't bother me but when he said I should put it next to the dumpster I had to bite my tongue.
Going outside, I leaned the sign between the 2 windows and against the brick wall, out of sight and out of the way.
The owner came running out and rudely told me that she didn't even want it against "her" building. Unwilling to support anybody who is in favor of the war or who is rude to me for that matter, we all left.
If you are against the war I suggest you boycott this place. The Charleton Heston sticker behind the bar saying "Heston for President" should have warned me a long time ago
Vote with your dollar. 24.Mar.2003 17:57

Eva Goldman

Yes; I believe that one of the most effective, and perhaps only, ways to change the system is to vote with our dollars. If the power is in the hands of the minority who have money, then it's up to us to create something new, to create our own economy, to create a society which we can live in. There are enough of us who oppose the war, who oppose capitalist greed, etc. We can support each other. It takes a bit of effort to go to another part of town to get food or drink, I admit, but at this point in the game I'm unable to support an establishment that supports this war.

I hope that we carry this spirit with us long after this war is over, or we will have to repeat history.

Yes, in war the Right shows their true colors 24.Mar.2003 18:41

Adam Bernstein zenarcade@attbi.com

Yes, your Tugboat incident is just one example of the Rightwing showing their true colors during wartime. They may act perfectly reasonable at other times, but war brings out the best...and worst in people.
Reminds me of a story told by Victor Jara's wife during the Sept. 11, 1973 coup in Chile where she said her neighbor, who up until then seems very refined and middle class, was having a pro-Pinochet fit cursing Mrs. Jara with obscene words and gestures.
I'm sure we all have our own personal examples of this and thanks for pointing out yours.


i used to go there... 24.Mar.2003 19:35

Steven Q

I used to work downtown and frequently get off late, and got into the habit of going there almost every night. The beer wasn't great, and neither was the food, but it was cheap -- and didn't even mind the giant cockroaches that much. I remember having a socio-political discussion with her at the bar, and basically we didn't agree on much. I don't remember what it was, but I was finished drinking my beer and said that I was done. I got up and left. I still went back many other times and had pleasant exchanges. My last visit was 3ish years ago, in which I was asked by her to leave when it seemed as if she just remembered I was someone she really didn't want there. It was really bizarre, really disturbing, and I have never gone back --but I guess that's her right. "...cold, dead fingers."

the TUGBOAT??? 24.Mar.2003 20:20

Holy Shit!

I used to play music there!!! They allow children and animals in there. I can't believe this. Are you SURE? Wow.

freedom of speech 24.Mar.2003 21:01

homebrew

I visit the Tugboat frequently, and I have had pleasant experiences with both John and Megan. When I went in on Thursday night during the protests, I heard about the very incident described.

I was stunned at his remarks and the way they acted.

However, I'm not going to stop going there because the bar tender is a right-leaning libertarian. I'm not going to stop speaking to my father cause he votes Republican either. People other than liberals and radicals and anarchists have freedom of speech, and we must keep the channels of communication and dialogue open. If we don't we run the risk of "preaching to the choir", something I read a lot about on Indy Media.

I've had great conversations at the Tugboat about local politics. If the bartenders did not want protest signs in their establishment, they MAY have had personal reasons for doing so (ie being a vet, or having family in the armed forces). There is no need to classify this small locally owned business with hostile police-state corporations like Starbucks and Nordstroms.

M

no po

freedom of speech 24.Mar.2003 21:01

homebrew

I visit the Tugboat frequently, and I have had pleasant experiences with both John and Megan. When I went in on Thursday night during the protests, I heard about the very incident described.

I was stunned at his remarks and the way they acted.

However, I'm not going to stop going there because the bar tender is a right-leaning libertarian. I'm not going to stop speaking to my father cause he votes Republican either. People other than liberals and radicals and anarchists have freedom of speech, and we must keep the channels of communication and dialogue open. If we don't we run the risk of "preaching to the choir", something I read a lot about on Indy Media.

I've had great conversations at the Tugboat about local politics. If the bartenders did not want protest signs in their establishment, they MAY have had personal reasons for doing so (ie being a vet, or having family in the armed forces). There is no need to classify this small locally owned business with hostile police-state corporations like Starbucks and Nordstroms.

M

no po

Tugboat 24.Mar.2003 21:45

Rance

It's not a question of whether or not John and Megan have some "personal reason" for their behavior. They shut their doors, and showed no tolerance. They wouldn't even hear the guy speak. Fuck 'em. We can't support that kind of intolerance. If they are willing to have a conversation, then two or three if us should go over for a beer and see if the will listen. Otherwise, shut it down.

Tugboat Pro-War? 24.Mar.2003 22:55

???

Who's John? What happened to Terry?

Effective? 25.Mar.2003 01:32

LeftFielder leftfield@post.com

"Yes; I believe that one of the most effective, and perhaps only, ways to change the system is to vote with our dollars."

Can anyone name any war which was ended because people changed their spending habits?

We find examples of countries withdrawing from war because of mass opposition and resistance to it (Russia/WWI, France/Algeria, U.S./Vietnam) but little if any of that resistance involved shopping differently.

In solidarity,
LeftFielder

Agree with me, or go to...um... 28.May.2003 22:32

Middle-of-the-roady

I moved to Portland from Camarillo, CA, a couple years ago, and found the Tugboat one of the most interesting Public Houses this side of London -- where I've certainly done my time. I've found Portland to be full of well-meaning people, but not well mannered. The leftists here are the most closed minded, bigoted, and uninformed people I've ever come across. Don't take this personally, but life begins when we are secure enough in our beliefs that we don't feel compelled to jam it down our "opponents" throat. Grow up. So the Tugboat doesn't want to become a haven for hate-filled slobs who want a free toilet -- fine, allow the owners the same freedom of choice that you're protesting for. So you're smarter, and know more about everything than everybody? Write a book and see if it sells. Move along, laddy, and find another public house.