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Update on Proposed Oregon Fascist Legislation, SB 742

SB 742 is Dead.
According to the office of Senator Ginny Burdick, SB 742 died in commitee this morning. Another blow to State Sponsored Terrorism.

See  http://portland.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=49261&group=webcast for more information on this bill.

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erm... 24.Mar.2003 15:36

The One True b!X's PORTLAND COMMUNIQUE

Maybe they decided something after the committee hearing, but there was no overt decision by the Judiciary Committee this morning to even suggest that the bill is dead. There was a slightly amended version which remained a problem, which people were trying to discuss despite almost no one being able to get their hands on the new text. And the amended version retained the secondary section threatening Oregon's 181 laws. And the bill still existed when the Committee adjourned at around 10:15 AM or so.

So, perhaps you'd like to explain precisely what Burdick allegedly said, and in what context? Because I was there watching the hearing, and no one said the bill was dead. Only that it would continue to be discussed and they'd have another hearing at some point.


erm... 24.Mar.2003 17:35

The One True b!X's PORTLAND COMMUNIQUE

Maybe they decided something after the committee hearing, but there was no overt decision by the Judiciary Committee this morning to even suggest that the bill is dead. There was a slightly amended version which remained a problem, which people were trying to discuss despite almost no one being able to get their hands on the new text. And the amended version retained the secondary section threatening Oregon's 181 laws. And the bill still existed when the Committee adjourned at around 10:15 AM or so.

So, perhaps you'd like to explain precisely what Burdick allegedly said, and in what context? Because I was there watching the hearing, and no one said the bill was dead. Only that it would continue to be discussed and they'd have another hearing at some point.


More info... 24.Mar.2003 18:11

Patriot Act

Senator Ginny Burdick's representative told me that nobody in the committee had any interest in even voting on this bill. The rep's words were that the bill was 'dead in committee'. She gave the impression that it was trounced, and she seemed pleased.

I later heard (on OPB I believe), something to the effect that 'it would continue to be discussed and they'd have another hearing at some point.'

I was not there, so I would invite b!X and anyone else who was, to please add their perspecitve.

Pretty much dead but still twitching 24.Mar.2003 18:21

xib the second false one :)

I spoke w/Melissa in Senator Burdick's office. She said Minnis is still tinkering (my word, not hers) with the bill, but her impression is it's dead considering there were an overwhelming number of people there to speak against the bill and not one for it. She said she believes it will die in committee.

But we better keep watching.

name change 24.Mar.2003 19:05

sei shonagon

Don't you think we ought to start calling him "John Menace"?

Beware... 24.Mar.2003 21:28

anne frank

I was at the hearing, and SB 742 is not dead. Please do not waver in your interest about this legislation. The fundamentalists are very clever in designing the argument and manipulating the results. Encouraging activists to ignore these outrages is part of the plan. SB 742 is designed to distract us from the repeal of the 181 Laws. Please come to the hearings which will be scheduled later(unless, of course, the rulers call CODE RED), and please come ready for nonviolent civil disobedience. We already live in a police state, and it's going to get a lot more challenging.

Around 400 people showed up this morning for the public hearing. There were about 70 chairs in the hearing room which had been assigned for the hearing. There were many police in the halls and in the hearing room. We were told that the hearing room was full, and that we needed to gather around a television tuned in to FOX news in the lobby. The officer at the television said that there were "no plans" to open another hearing room, and that the government had not anticipated this large a crowd. I ran back up to the hearing room and a bunch of us walked in even as the police were trying to clear the room of those who didn't have assigned chairs, and then the police pushed us out again. After several more minutes, two other small rooms were made available for us to watch the hearing on closed-circuit television, and we were herded into these rooms. Another group of people hung around the TV in the lobby and listened to the hearing there. Mr. Minnis was in full plummage during the testimony, and viciously cross-examined each of the eight people who were allowed to speak, especially the non-lawyers. One woman really blew her definition of civil disobedience v. criminal activity(she said that civil disobedience was like driving too fast and that criminal activity would be like raping her daughter). Minnis threatened to close the hearing if people applauded for speakers, so the audience fell silent. Then he ended the meeting at 10:15 and didn't set a time to revisit the Bill.

This is the end game, folks. Now is the time.

SB 742 24.Mar.2003 21:32

NE Portland

I emailed the Committee expressing my outrage at the proposed legislation, and received a form email from Starr, which read in part:

"Senator Starr is strongly opposed to SB 742 in its original form. He shares the same concerns about civil rights that have been raised by many in opposition to this bill. Amendments to the bill have been proposed, but will not be available until the bill is heard on March 24th. Senator Starr will review the proposed amendments before determining whether they will alter the bill sufficiently to allow him to change his position."

None of the other recipients have responded.

One Surefire Way to kill 742 26.Mar.2003 02:18

Anti-742

One surefire way to kill 742 is to point out that it affects the anti-choice fanatics that John Minnis loves just as much as tree-sitters and anti-war protesters.

You could look at it this way: After the Supreme Court determined that RICO can't be used against the anti-choice fanatics blocking clinics, there's little to stop them. But John Minnis rides to the rescue of Oregon's abortion providers with a definition of terrorism that precisely and perfectly fits the tactics the anti-choice fanatics use to obstruct access to clinics. If there's a domestic form of terrorism, they practice it.

Concern for his fellow anti-choice fanatics is certainly a more plausible explanation for Sen. Starr's opposition to 742 than any concern for civil rights.