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"Because the main point is to cause corporate pains, we should work harder at stopping people from going to work than getting home from it."
"Because the main point is to cause corporate pains, we should work harder at stopping people from going to work than getting home from it."

 http://portland.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=50587&group=webcast

more of the people will feel liberated.

a downside is that lower wage workers on the clock will lose much needed fractions of their slavery wages.
Agreed! 21.Mar.2003 14:55

Gertha

Athough I'll go at it anytime

liberated? please 21.Mar.2003 15:09

lex2000

I won't feel very liberated if I get fired from my job because I can't get to it. Protest if you want to, I'm all for it. When you start to encroach upon my freedom and my life, not to mention my livelihood, that is when I get upset.

Do whatever you want, but don't fuck up shit for other people who are just trying to get by in this world.

Take the Week Off 21.Mar.2003 15:42

Tired of Corporate Media Cliches

"don't fuck up shit for other people who are just trying to get by in this world."

Like the civilians in Iraq?

Sorry you're so insensitive.

No corporate media BS here 21.Mar.2003 15:58

lex2000

No, not like the Iraqis. Like me (and many others), who support freedom of expression and the right to protest, but also respect the rights of others to make their own choices.
I don't mean going on killing rampages and shit like that or starting unjustifiable wars. Let's not get sensational and blow this subject out of proportion by making unrealistic analogies.

I'm doing all I can to make it day to day here, I don't need someone impeding on that because they want to "shut down the city". I'm sorry, I support your right to think what you want and protest how you want, but if you get in my way by trying to stop me from going to work we could have a problem.

THINK....NOT ONLY ABOUT YOURSELVES 21.Mar.2003 16:02

LIGHT

think of all of the people who are dying because of greed...don't worry so much about your pitiful job "downtown" or whereever it may be. what is more important..your wittle job or people's lives....peace....
open your mind open your eyes

They Can't Fire Us All 21.Mar.2003 16:06

solidarity is needed

The trick is not to stop the morning traffic, but to convince enough workers to stay home from work out of choice. If a large enough percentage of workers were to stay home, call in sick, etc, the bosses would be powerless to reprimand them all.

Still, what's really need are more union jobs, so that when workers go on strike they have resources to draw from and won't simply slip into complete poverty immediately.

hey, 'lex2000'--check it out 21.Mar.2003 16:35

two yuppies FOR PEACE

SF Chronicle article on the demonstrations where they interviewed two early-30s financial district employees about their participation in and views on the marches, and they stated the same--that they were convinced this war was immoral and unjustified, and that stopping and disrupting 'normal' daily activities is intended as a clear message to their fellow citizens:

 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2003/03/20/protesters.DTL

 http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=300104&group=webcast

"We don't want to alienate people. I hope people realize that political murder merits action that inconveniences them,'' said Quinn Miller, 32, who took the day off from his job for a banking company and said he expected to be arrested for the first time in his life.

"This party's just getting started," they added. Mike Boston, passing by on his way to work inside the Transamerica Pyramid, said he didn't plan to join the protest, but was happy the demonstrators had turned out.

"I don't support the war," said Boston, who works for a financial services firm. "A pre-emptive strike is un-American. This is nothing we've ever done in our history. I think this is a wrongly thought-out war."


anyway. 21.Mar.2003 17:14

lex2000

Those "30-something" people are entitled to their opinion just like I am entitled to mine. If I want to work my "wittle" job instead of being homeless (which I busted my ass to get away from) that is my fucking decision. Period.

You can talk about how I need to open my eyes and my mind all you want. Don't jump to the ignorant conclusion that I haven't done anything (or that I don't) just because I want to keep my job. Don't assume that I haven't thought about my decisions carefully and come to the conclusion I have without a lot of debate. If keeping my apartment rented and food on my table is being greedy and a product of coroporate media, then fuck it, I guess I'm a sell out. Sorry kids, but I don't like sleeping in the cold rain and being hungry. I've been there, and I'm doing everything I can to keep from going back.

For those of you to call me insensitive or greedy just because I don't choose to go the same route as you and those you've cited is very short-sighted and poorly-thought out.

Fuck it anyway.

lost skills 21.Mar.2003 18:31

mamansita

you could build your own place to live and grow some food.

everyone who needs food oughta care about growing it

nothing else matters when youre hungry and cold right?