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An open letter to all green anarchists

an open letter to all green anarchists
Here we stand
Like an Adam and an Eve
The Garden of Eden
Two fools in love
So beautiful and strong
The birds in the trees
Are smiling upon them
From the age of the dinosaurs
Cars have run on gasoline
Where, where have they gone?
Now, it's nothing but flowers

There was a factory
Now there are mountains and rivers
you got it, you got it

We caught a rattlesnake
Now we got something for dinner
we got it, we got it

There was a shopping mall
Now it's all covered with flowers
you've got it, you've got it

If this is paradise
I wish I had a lawnmower
you've got it, you've got it

Years ago
I was an angry young man
I'd pretend
That I was a billboard
Standing tall
By the side of the road
I fell in love
With a beautiful highway
This used to be real estate
Now it's only fields and trees
Where, where is the town
Now, it's nothing but flowers
The highways and cars
Were sacrificed for agriculture
I thought that we'd start over
But I guess I was wrong

Once there were parking lots
Now it's a peaceful oasis
you got it, you got it

This was a Pizza Hut
Now it's all covered with daisies
you got it, you got it

I miss the honky tonks,
Dairy Queens, and 7-Elevens
you got it, you got it

And as things fell apart
Nobody paid much attention
you got it, you got it

I dream of cherry pies,
Candy bars, and chocolate chip cookies
you got it, you got it

We used to microwave
Now we just eat nuts and berries
you got it, you got it

This was a discount store,
Now it's turned into a cornfield
you got it, you got it

Don't leave me stranded here
I can't get used to this lifestyle
Uh huh... 18.Dec.2002 18:33


Its really too bad that in order to write this drivel you had to sit in front of your computer monitor gobbling up precious electricity you stinking dirtbag hypocrite...

no love for primitivists 19.Dec.2002 00:25


i know this is decadent & wrong, but I agree here. Primitivists (aka 'green anarchists' whatever that means) are pretty silly.

to write the poem s/he used:
electricity, numeric skills (distinguishing different keys), perceived different moments in time, and language.

Whats that have to do with anything? Those are all things that some people in Eugene think will fall when the great primitivist revolt comes about.

They give anarchy a bad name...

'Tis a song 19.Dec.2002 00:39


Uh... This is a Talking Head's song; and in fact a
pretty popular one.

This is actually the first time I understood what the
heck point it was trying to make.

Green Anarchists Can Use Technology 19.Dec.2002 02:44

green anarchist

I think the primitivist critique is about acknowleging that humans enjoyed an immense amount of freedom when they lived in a state of natural anarchy, and that our current techno driven society is leading to more and more alienation and destruction.

Our endeavors today should be about finding that connection with nature again. I don't think many green anarchists think civilization can/will/should disappear overnight, we should be working towards a different civilization, with the primitivist principles in mind.

I could be wrong, but that's what i think.

it is not technology which keeps us apart 19.Dec.2002 08:24

mello mel

Sure, preindustrial humans were bonded more closely to nature and one another out of necessity. As TeeVee and the automobile have driven a wedge deeper and deeper between us and the natural order it is easy to blame technology wholesale. There are some worthwhile technologies though; photovoltaics, bicycles, radio, etc...

It is our responsibility to rebuild our communities and adopt sustainable technologies and reject the rest.

Freedom? 19.Dec.2002 17:48


"immense amount of freedom when they lived in a state of natural anarchy"

Given that you weren't there at the time, this is a pretty remarkable statement to make. How do you know their societies weren't riddled with patriarchy? What does "freedom" mean when you have no other choice but to live with the same people in the same place for your entire life? If you didn't like the state of natural anarchy, did you have any other choice? Nope, you didn't.

Not to mention the fact that the "freedom" to struggle for enough food and water to survive is a freedom I can live without.

The other dudes are right.. blaming technology for our problems is ass-backwards.