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Many of the 9-11 "hijackers" are still alive. In fact, it is possible that Arabs had nothing to do with 9-11.


The world's media has reported that many of the so-called hijackers "fingered" by the FBI are still alive. For example the BBC (British Broadcasting Cooperation) carried this report:

Hijack "suspects" alive and well.

The following article is a remake of http://www.mujahideen.fsnet.co.uk/wtc/wtc-hijackers.htm which lists many of the media articles dealing with the hijackers who were not hijackers.

Abdul Aziz Al-Omari (Flight 11) (Trained Pilot)

The identities of two men with same name have been cobbled together to create an FBI "terrorist". Both are Alive!

The first has the same name, the same birth date as one of the FBI "terrorists" but has no idea how to fly.

The second has the name Abdul Rahman Al-Omari and a different birth date, but is the person pictured by the FBI and is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines.

Here are some quotes from the world's media concerning them.

Omari Number 1

"A Saudi man has reported to authorities that he is the real Abdul Aziz Al-Omari, and claims his passport was stolen in 1995 while he studied electrical engineering at the University of Denver. Al-Omari says he informed police of the theft." - ABCNews

"I couldn't believe it when the FBI put me on their list. They gave my name and my date of birth, but I am not a suicide bomber. I am here. I am alive. I have no idea how to fly a plane. I had nothing to do with this." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001

"The name (listed by the FBI) is my name and the birth date is the same as mine, but I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Center in New York," Abdul Aziz Al-Omari told the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper.

"Al-Omari has since been found in Saudi Arabia and is apparently cleared in the case" - New York Times

"Saudi Embassy officials in Washington have challenged his identity. They say a Saudi electrical engineer named Abdul Aziz Al-Omari had his passport and other papers stolen in 1996 in Denver when he was a student and reported the theft to police there at the time." - BBC

"Abdel Aziz Al-Omari and Sa?d Hussein Gharamallah Al-Ghamdi, are well in life, the first in Saudi Arabia and the second in Tunisia for nine months." - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001 (translate)

Omari Number 2

Mr. Al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, walked into the US embassy in Jeddah to demand why he was being reported as a dead hijacker in the American media.

"Abdul Aziz Al-Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines" - BBC 23rd September 2001

"A pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking ? as well as being dead ? and has visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation." - Independent 17th September 2001

This Al-Omari lives with his wife and four children in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

Saeed Al-Ghamdi (Flight 93) (Trained Pilot)

"Saeed Al-Ghamdi is one of three hijackers that US officials have said are linked to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network." - BBC

No BBC! Mr. Al-Ghamdi is still alive and well and at his job for Tunis Air.

"I was completely shocked. For the past 10 months I have been based in Tunis with 22 other pilots learning to fly an Airbus 320. The FBI provided no evidence of my presumed involvement in the attacks." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001

"Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Al-Ghamdi." - BBC 23rd September 2001

"Abdel Aziz Al-Omari and Sa?d Hussein Gharamallah Al-Ghamdi, are well in life, the first in Saudi Arabia and the second in Tunisia for nine months." - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001 (translate)

"..... not dead and had nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington." - Saudi embassy

Waleed Al-Shehri (Flight 11) (Trained Pilot)

"A sixth person on the FBI's list, Saudi national Waleed Al-Shehri, is living in Casablanca, according to an official with the Royal Air Moroc, the Moroccan commercial airline. According to the unnamed official, Al-Shehri lived in Dayton Beach, Fla., where he took flight training at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. Now he works for a Moroccan airline." On Sept. 22, Associated Press reported that Alshehri had spoken to the U.S. embassy in Morocco.

"His photograph was released by the FBI, and has been shown in newspapers and on television around the world. That same Mr Al-Shehri has turned up in Morocco, proving clearly that he was not a member of the suicide attack." - Daily Trust 24th September 2001.

"He was reported to have been in Hollywood, Florida, for a month earlier this year but his father, Ahmed, said that Waleed was alive and well and living in Morocco." - Telegraph

"Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well." - BBC 23rd September 2001.

Ahmed Al-Nami (Flight 93)

"I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked." He had never lost his passport and found it "very worrying" that his identity appeared to have been "stolen" and published by the FBI without any checks. The FBI had said his "possible residence" was Delray Beach in Florida." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001

Salem Al-Hazmi (Flight 77)

"Mr Al-Hamzi is 26 and had just returned to work at a petrochemical complex in the industrial eastern city of Yanbou after a holiday in Saudi Arabia when the hijackers struck. He was accused of hijacking the American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon." - Telegraph 23rd September 2001.

Khalid Al-Mihdhar (Flight 77)

"Saudi officials at the embassy were unable to verify the whereabouts of the fifth accused hijacker, Khalid Al-Mihdhar. However, Arab newspapers say Al-Mihdhar is still alive.

"..... there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar may also be alive." - BBC 23rd September 2001

Others accused of being involved:

Ameer Bukhari

"Ameer Bukhari died in a small plane crash last year." - CNN Correction

Adnan Bukhari

"Adnan Bukhari is still in Florida" - CNN Correction

Amer Kamfar

".... that a suspect sought by the FBI, Amer Kamfar, was in fact an alive pilot in Arabia. " - Wal Fadjri 21st September 2001 [translate]

Even after the above has appeared in the world's media the FBI has made no attempt to alter its web-sites which clearly list the wrong names, wrong photos, wrong identities and probably wrong nationalities of the real hijackers.

Given that the hijackers (if there were any) were clearly using false identities, why has the FBI never attempted to find out the hijackers true identities? Why does the FBI seem totally disinterested in apprehending the real culprits? This lack of action from one of our "trusted" government departments is very close to treason.


The evidence is such that the only people we can be sure DID NOT carry out the WTC bombing are the Arabs.

The trouble with the case against bin Laden and the Arabs, so far, is that it is laughable. It is a joke.

1) The WTC attack, described as brilliantly planned and executed by professionals, who some how forget to acquire (easily obtainable) false driver's licenses for identification and, if you can believe it (and most people can not) used their real names when boarding the aircraft. The FBI suspect list was comprised using the assumption that those on the passenger lists had used their real names (real smart,.. these guys really earn their money eh?).

2) These same professionals, leave a car at an airport (which is found within hours of the attack,.. what a surprise!) with incriminating documents (a flight training manual in Arabic). Professionals, (actually any sane persons) not wanting their "ground support" to be compromised, would take taxis to the airports.

3) When it is established that many, if not all the hi-jackers were using false identities the FBI suspect list did not change (yeah, morons run the FBI).

4) One of the accused carries a passport on an internal flight (in case he wants to travel overseas after the attack).

5) This passport, originally in the accuseds luggage or on his person, rips through the suitcase or jacket, survives the fireball, punches a hole through the WTC and then flutters to the ground a few blocks away. Fortunately, the passport had the name of the accused on it and is generally in great condition, although apparently somewhat muddy.

6) One of the accused (Mohammed Atta) packs a suitcase (in case he wants to visit relatives for a few days after the attack) with a "how to be a terrorist in the US" document (just part of the professionalism, mentioned above) that just happens not to be loaded on the plane (so that the incriminating document survives,.. what a surprise!).

7) Mohammed Atta travels to Portland Maine to fly to Boston (why not drive straight to Boston) and transfer to the suicide flight. This is utterly unbelievable. This introduces a huge potential problem. What happens if his flight is delayed. How embarrassing for the so called leader of the terrorists, if he can't make his connection. That would throw a spanner in the works. Transferring flights like this offers no upside but huge downside, and is considerable evidence that Atta has been framed.

8) And do not forget that phone calls were made from the planes blamed the hijacking on Israelis (actually, they used the words "middle eastern looking" but we all know that many Israelis are very middle eastern looking).

These laughable "facts" which all point to the Arabs can be viewed as strong evidence that the WTC was not carried out by the Arabs. These nonsense "facts" all point to an event where someone is being framed.

From Arabs Not To Blame For 9-11.


Hours after the 9-11 attacks, authorities began to find clues conveniently left for them to stumble upon. The Boston Globe reported that a copy of the Koran, instructions on how to fly a commercial airplane and a fuel consumption calculator were found in a pair of bags meant for one of the hijacked flights that left from Logan. 64

Authorities also received a "tip" about a suspicious white car left behind at Boston's Logan Airport. An Arabic-language flight training manual was found inside the car. 65

How fortunate for investigators that the hijackers "forgot" to take their Koran and Arab flight manuals with them! Within a few days, all "19 hijackers" were "identified" and their faces were plastered all over our television screens.

Then, like a script from a corny "B" spy movie, the official story gets even more ridiculous. The passport of the supposed "ringleader" Mohammed Atta, somehow managed to survive the explosion, inferno, and smoldering collapse to be oh-so-conveniently "found" just a few blocks away from the World Trade Center! 66

It is obvious that this "evidence" was planted by individuals wishing to direct the blame towards Osama Bin Laden. How is it possible that Arab students who had never flown an airplane could take a simulator course and then fly jumbo jets with the skill and precision of "top-gun" pilots? It is not possible and the fact is, the true identities of the 9-11 hijackers remains a mystery. In the days following the disclosure of the "hijackers" names and faces, no less than 7 of the Arab individuals named came forward to protest their obvious innocence. 67

That's right! Seven of the nineteen "hijackers" are alive and well. They were victims of identity theft, some of whom had had their passports stolen. They were interviewed by several news organizations including the Telegraph of England. Here's an excerpt from David Harrison's Telegraph story entitled:

Revealed: The Men With Stolen Identities:

"Their names were flashed around the world as suicide hijackers who carried out the attacks on America. But yesterday four innocent men told how their identities had been stolen.
The men - all from Saudi Arabia - spoke of their shock at being mistakenly named by the FBI as suicide terrorists. None of the four was in the United States on September 11 and all are alive in their home country.
The Telegraph obtained the first interviews with the men since they learnt that they were on the FBI's list of hijackers who died in the crashes in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.
All four said that they were "outraged" to be identified as terrorists. One has never been to America and another is a Saudi Airlines pilot who was on a training course in Tunisia at the time of the attacks. Saudi Airlines said it was considering legal action against the FBI for seriously damaging its reputation and that of its pilots." 68
(emphasis added)

The story of these identity thefts was also briefly reported by ABC 69 and BBC (England) 70 The FBI does not deny this. Nobody denies this fact because it is easily verifiable. Instead, the US media and government just ignore this inconvenient little fact and keep right on repeating the monstrous lie that the hijacker identities are known and that 15 of them were Saudis.

CNN revealed that FBI director Robert Mueller openly admitted that some of the identities of the 9-11 hijackers are in question due to identity theft. Here's what CNN reported on September 21:

FBI Director Robert Mueller has acknowledged that some of those behind last week's terror attacks may have stolen the identification of other people, and, according to at least one security expert, it may have been "relatively easy" based on their level of sophistication. 71

This opens up a whole Pandora's box of unanswered questions. First and foremost of which is this: why would Osama Bin laden, the Saudi Arabian caveman, steal identities? To cover his tracks you say? Next question: why would a Saudi Arabian, attempting to cover his tracks, steal the identities of....fellow Saudi Arabians??? What would be the point? Why go you through the trouble of stealing identities that would point back to you? Why not steal Greek identities, or Brazilian identities, or Turkish ones? A much more logical conclusion is that non-Arabs stole these identities as part of a "false flag" operation designed to point the blame at Arabs, and Saudi Arabs in particular.

What kind of a corrupt character is FBI boss Mueller? He initially admitted that false identities were involved with 9-11, but then he allows the media to keep naming these innocent, and alive, Arabs as the hijackers? Why doesn't he correct them? More on the slimy Mr. Mueller later on!

Now I'm really going to rock your faith in the false religion of 9-11. In February of 2000, Indian intelligence officials detained 11 members of what they thought was an Al Qaeda hijacking conspiracy. It was then discovered that these 11 "Muslim preachers" were all Israeli nationals! India's leading weekly magazine, The Week, reported,...........

From Stranger Than Fiction.

A listing of many articles on 9-11 is available here.


Ziad Jarrah is one of the best known of the 19 9/11 hijackers. What most people don't know, however, is that there were actually two Ziad Jarrahs: the one raised in Lebanon and who's picture has been widely circulated by the FBI, and the one that (may have) flown on Flight 93. The evidence of two is undeniable, and amazingly, we even have pictures of the second Jarrah......

Ziad Jarrah is not the only 9/11 hijacker to have a secret doppelganger. Although the FBI investigation and the mainstream media have consistently ignored the evidence and its implications, the evidence is often very clear. Numerous 9/11 hijackers are, in fact, still alive. To mention some of the more obvious cases.....

From The Two Ziad Jarrahs.

Try these for a little truth about 9-11.

The World Trade Center Demolition. 740 KB
Evidence of Explosives In The South Tower Collapse.
Chapter One of the FEMA WTC collapse report (with comment). 850 KB
Chapter Two of the FEMA WTC collapse report (with comment). 1.9 MB
The Pentagon Crash Hoax. 1.4 MB
Stranger Than Fiction. 600 KB
Arabs Not To Blame For 9-11.
The Air National Guard Mission And Vision Statements. (How did the ANG measure up on September 11? In one word: treasonous.)
Full list of articles from http://www.nerdcities.com/guardian

Some of Eric Hufschmid's early web articles on 9-11 can be found at

Who Blew Up the World Trade Center.
Clouds Of Concrete.
What Identifies A Demolition?
Full listing of Eric Hufschmid's early web articles.

Articles from serendipity.magnet.ch and others

The World Trade Center Demolition from serendipity.magnet.ch
McMichael's Analysis Of The World Trade Center Demolition.
The World Trade Center Demolition As An Insurance Scam?
Many Hijackers Still Alive.
Hijackers Still Alive From the BBC.
Another Article On The Hijackers Who Are Still Alive.

For faster downloads you can find 3 of the above articles mirrored at http://www.thepowerhour.com/911-nerdcities/nerdcites.htm

The World Trade Center Demolition. 740 KB
Chapter Two of the FEMA WTC collapse report (with comment). 1.9 MB
The Pentagon Crash Hoax. 1.4 MB


homepage: homepage: http://www.nerdcities.com/guardian

'hijackers' 07.Dec.2002 15:02



A summary, according to mainstream media/military reports.
For more in-depth analysis, see sources below.

The actual identity of the Sept. 11th "hijackers" is still very much in doubt.

Seven, (possibliy eight) of the nineteen originally identified as particpating in the suicide attacks have since been reported, (according to mainstream American/British sources) to still be alive. One is admittedly dead.

A matter of stolen passports.

Yet these reports are made, forgotten, then consistently ignored. The stubborn insistence of the mainstream media to ignore this fact, to continue publishing known falsehoods a year after they have been established as such, is nothing short of a journalistic scandal.


Waleed Alshehri

Abdul aziz Alomari
(Remember the photo of the two hijackers passing through the airport in Portland Maine? -the ONLY photograph of the supposed "hijackers" on that day? Well, Mohamed Atta's companion in the picture is supposed to be the Abdul aziz Alomari in the "official" photograph; and that's NOT who it is.)

Saeed Alghamdi

Salem Alhazmi

Ahmed Alnami

Ameer Bukhari
"Ameer Bukhari died in a small plane crash last year." - CNN Correction

Adnan Bukhari
"Adnan Bukhari is still in Florida, and not a suspect" - CNN Correction

Amer Kamfar

Khalid Al-Mihdhar (possible)

Does this mean that the FBI and mainstream media ceases publishing their photographs? -or referring to them by name without qualification?

A simple search on a standard search-engine gives you the obvious answer.

Now it's possible, of course, that certain media reports, (even from such sources as the BBC, Daily Telegraph, CBS News, CNN) can be mistaken; yet it remains a simple fact that when people who look like a certain person -identified by certain documents/photos to be a terrorist- talk to a credible reporter, or show themselves to authorities, then media outlets have an obligation to suspend referring to such person as a "terrorist," a "participant" in a horrific crime; or, at least, cease publishing their picture.... until such time as they actually investigate the matter.

If we think the press could be forgiven for assuming that the mistaken identities could be a matter of two people having the same name, the following remarkable report shows us it is much more than this,


documenting in precise detail, (with photographs) how 4-5 other supposed "terrorists" each have official FBI and/or mainstream media photos which are of at least two different people, (if not three).

Khalid Almihdhar,
Hamza Alghamdi
Majed Moqed
Ahmed Alhaznawi
Ziad Jarrah

In total then, that's thirteen, (maybe fourteen) of the nineteen hijackers whose identities are partially or wholly mistaken/fabricated.

Is this not significant? -in the light of America using this information to invade Afghanistan and kill over 4,000 of its innocent civilians?

In the above document, Ziad Jarrah is examined in great detail, showing how, at numerous times, he is officially claimed to be on two different continents at the same time.

In short, the claims of the FBI -about the hijackers identities- lacks the most elementary credibility; and the ability of the mainstream American press to continually overlook this in its zeal to sell "a story" is a testament to its shameful moral standing.

It's simply too inconvenient for them, it seems -to acknowledge such an uncertainty in a case of national importance. Perhaps it represents a hole in the explanation, an opportunity for the public to ask questions, where the "authorities" are not in control; and big media simply cannot allow this.

All one has to do is plug the following phrases into the standard search engine, "hijackers" + "Sept. 11," read the reports of the supposed "hijackers," and compare them to the above list of mistaken identities... to find the number of news outlets which, a year after the fact, are still accusing innocent people of the most atrocious crimes against humanity.

Here's a partial list of the media outlets which have proven themselves to lack the most elementary journalistic integrity.


For all their resources, such organizations cannot even bother to acknowledge what their mainstream colleagues, (sometimes their own reporters!!) have already stated, (albeit but briefly). It is left to volunteers like us -citizens who have little time or money to dig for the truth- to maintain some kind of integral outpost in the midst of such negligence.


Let's look a little more-closely at the supposed "hijackers" themselves.

The FBI/CIA originally claimed they had no advance warning of the attacks, (which we now know to be untrue) yet within two days they claimed to have identified all nineteen of the "hijackers," where they trained, travelled -informing a surprised and angry German Intelligence, (who had been kept in the dark) that they had been monitoring the lead "cell" in Hamburg for four years. [www.democracynow.org Sept 26, 2001]

An excellent report on the botched investigations of two hijackers in particular, may be found here,


Aside from a few thoughtless reports, the "hijackers" are near-universally acknowledged to have flown their planes with extraordinary skill, (480 m.p.h. at extremely low altitudes, near- acrobatics at the Pentagon).

We are told that "the hijackers" trained on single-engine flight-schools in Florida and flight-simulators. Aside from the fact that neither of these would have been of significant help in training someone to fly commercial airliners, [www.tenc.net "huffman"] here's how the various "hijackers" were described by their respective flight-instructors.

"Mohammed Atta, and Marwanal-Al-Shehhi, (Flight 11)
"neither man was able to pass a Stage I rating test to track and intercept."
[Wash. Post (Sept 19, 2001)]

Nawaq Alhazmi, Khaid Al-Midhar, (Flight 175)
"Their English was horrible, and their mechanical skills were even worse... like they had hardly even ever driven a car ... in the plane, they were dumb and dumber."
[Wash. Post (Sept. 24, 2001)]

Hani Hanjour, (Flight 77)
went into the air in a Cessna 172 with instructors.... three times... [hoping] to rent a plane from the airport.... after three times in the air, they still felt he was unable to fly solo....
[(pg. 1.) The Prince George's Journal (Maryland), September 18].

While many strategists expressed shock and amazement at the precision and planning of such an attack, the clumsiness of the supposed "attackers," in leaving clues behind, would be laughable if it was not so insulting to a thinking observer:

loud, obnoxious behaviour in a strip-club the night before the attacks, (AP, Sept.13)
speeding tickets, a road-rage incident, [AP, 9/12/01 ] flight manuals, ID, baggage "accidentally" left behind, a "testament" conveniently found in connection to three different flights, the "authors" of which veteran Middle East correspondent Robert Fisk describes as being "surprisingly unfamiliar with their own religion." (The Independent, Sept 29, 2001).

All eight of the so-called "black boxes" were either not found, or were inoperative -an unheard-of-occurrence; yet one of the "hijackers" passports was supposedly found a few blocks from the WTC, apparently surviving the crash, the 1000+ degree fire; and so on.

The significance of the fact that fifteen of the nineteen "hijackers" are Saudi Arabians -is rarely discussed. This, of course, points to NATO support for the extremist Wah'habi sect of Islam, emanating from Saudi Arabia -upon which the Taliban, (and Al Queda, as resistors to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, 79/89) were created and sustained. (see "Connection between Bin Laden, Al Queda, and the CIA," on this site).

In short, the FBI "investigation" into the Sept. 11 attacks, (and the mainstream media coverage of it) lacks the most elementary credibility. The vast bulk of the reports we are likely to hear are not to be believed; or rather, to find the truth, it appears we must critically take apart each and every report to find whatever piece of truth lies within, then piece them together from a vantage point outside the comfort zone of cops and country.

It is a scandal to those that died in the attacks of Sept. 11th that a world-wide "war on terrorism" has been declared alongside such contempt for honest inquiry.



Primary Sources:




[repost of Indymedia Main comment #195701]

Here's what you wrote...

"Why is THIS vague! She gave the Seat number.
Seat number equals Atta.
Atta has a Credit card. He also bought ticket with credit card. Atta is also at credit card machine on video.
Gee, Its really that easy.
I see you also forgot about the passport, and avoided all the other seat number information, audio tape etc. "

On the surface nothing is wrong with that premise...one has a credit card..one buys apparently four tickets...and gets on the plane to hijack it. Straight forward. BUT, I'm gonna take liberty with a few things here...everyone believes that Atta was the ringleader, correct? So it would be safe to assume that he purchased at least the four tickets for the flight he was on. Stay with me here ok. Here's the rub..four FIRST class tickets!! I just looked up the price for a comparable flight, and do you know how much the bill was? $9434.00(that does not include taxes)!!! So we're roughly looking at something in the neighbourhood of 10gs.

Now, how did he get a credit card period? And how in the name of God did he manage to get one with a limit of over $10,000.00????????? Now dont scoff at this yet...It might be easy for someone who's lived in america all their lives to accumulate a limit like that, but for someone who hase just come here...highly unlikely. I know, I work in the banking industry. Yep it could have been a secured credit card where he put 20gs in an account and gets the same limit etc. Or it could have been a debit card, not a credit card at all. True. But there's a problem with that as well. Debit cards(as well as credit cards) have daily dollar limits, which means that once you spend up to that limit, in all likelihood it will be declined. The highest daily dollar limits I have seen, run in the 2000-2500s. I seriuosly doubt that he had a credit card with a limit of over 10 grand. And I'll tell you why...a foreigner comes to US, he needs to get a SSN or a TIN. Credit card companies or banks will not lend to you unless you have a SSN. Now unless the SSN has been in use for at least the past five years, the credit report shows a warning stating that social has been issued in the last 5 years. To prevent possible fraud etc. Coz sometimes( the cases i have seen anyways) these people are pretty much considered flight risks. People like international students etc. Which Atta was. So no way he had a credit card with a high enough limit, and had the daily dollar limits assigned to his card, which would allow him to burn 10 grand on four tickets!!!!

You could argue maybe he did it over four days(or something like that), but that would have sent up so many flags at the credit company...that's a story for another day :)


The Story of Alazmi and Almihdhar
 link to www.cooperativeresearch.org

March 2, 2002: A curious article in the Washington Post claims that 9 of the 9/11 hijackers were selected for special security screenings that morning, including two who were singled out because of irregularities in their identification documents. "Six were chosen for extra scrutiny by a computerized screening system, prompting a sweep of their checked baggage for explosives or unauthorized weapons." [Washington Post, 3/2/02] None of the names selected for screening are given, but a different article makes clear that hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar, on a watch list for international flights at the time (see August 23, 2001), are not selected. [Cox News, 10/21/01] If this is true, how did they get the box cutters on board, not to mention reports of bombs on two planes? Even though box cutters were technically legal at the time, wouldn't their other irregularities have led to their confiscation? Also, if all this is true, why have no photos of them boarding planes been released?

FBI and CIA officials talk about the
Alhazmi and Almihdhar case behind
screens to shield their identities from
the general public. [New York Times]

June 7, 2002: In an address to the nation, President Bush states, "Based on everything I've seen, I do not believe anyone could have prevented the horror of September the 11th." [Sydney Morning Herald, 6/8/02] Days earlier, Newsweek reports that the FBI have prepared a detailed chart showing how agents could have uncovered the terrorist plot if the CIA been told them what it knew about the hijackers Almihdhar and Alhazmi sooner. One FBI official says, "There's no question we could have tied all 19 hijackers together." [Newsweek, 6/2/02, the issue hit the streets on June 4]

October 5, 2002: The New York Times reports that the FBI is refusing to allow Abdussattar Shaikh, the FBI informant who lived with hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar (see September-December 2001), to testify before a Congressional inquiry. His local FBI contact is also not allowed to testify. The FBI claims the informer would have nothing interesting to say, but Congressional investigators say they are skeptical of that. The Justice Department is also joining in efforts to learn more about the informant. [New York Times, 10/5/02] Neither the informant nor his local contact end up publicly testifying before the inquiry.


The Story of Zacarias Moussaoui

September 5, 2002: Based on the recent interrogations of terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui's al-Qaeda associates, including his alleged handler, French intelligence believes Moussaoui was not part of the 9/11 attacks, but was being readied for a second wave of attacks. Says one official, "Moussaoui was going to be a foot soldier in a second wave of attacks that was supposed to culminate in early 2002 with simultaneous bombings against US embassies in Europe, the Middle East and Asia, as well as several hijackings in the United States." However, the US has charged him with being the "20th hijacker" who planned to be on Flight 77 in the 9/11 attack. [ABC News, 9/5/02] Why doesn't the US prosecute him for the crimes he is guilty of?

September 24, 2002: Federal prosecutors say a business card found in the wreckage of Flight 93 provides a link between alleged conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui and hijacker Ziad Jarrah. Supposedly a business card belonging to Jarrah has a phone number written on it, and Moussaoui once called that number. It was not explained what the number is, who's phone number it was, when Moussaoui called it, when the card was found, or how investigators know the card belonged to Jarrah. [MSNBC, 9/24/02, Washington Post, 9/25/02] Interestingly, this find comes just as the case against Moussaoui is facing trouble. For instance, one month earlier, USA Today said investigators had found no link between Moussaoui and the other hijackers. [USA Today, 8/29/02] Prosecutors have been trying to get the Flight 93 cockpit voice recordings played to the jury, but on September 13, the judge said, "the recordings appear to have marginal evidentiary value while posing unfair prejudice to the defendant." [Washington Post, 9/25/02] Was it just incredible luck to have found this card a year after 9/11, or could someone have created new evidence by writing a phone number on a card?

September 25, 2002: In an interview with CBS, FBI Director Mueller states, "I can tell you there are things I wish we had done differently. That there are things we should have followed up on. But the bottom line is I do not believe that we would have been able to prevent September 11th." Speaking about the Zacarias Moussaoui case, he says, "That took us several months, to follow that lead, and it also required the full support of the German authorities, and it would have been very, I think impossible to have followed that particular lead in the days between the time in which Moussaoui was detained and September 11th." [CBS, 9/25/02] This negativism is in sharp contrast to a previous statement he made (see May 21, 2002), as well as the opinion of many rank and file FBI officers, some of whom have made a chart showing how all the hijackers could have been caught if certain leads were followed. [Newsweek, 6/2/02] His opinion on the Moussaoui case is contradicted by many, including FBI agents working on that case. [Time, 5/21/02] The media also doesn't agree. For instance the Independent stated information on Moussaoui's computer "might have been enough to expose the Hamburg cell, which investigators believe was the key planning unit for 11 September." [Independent, 12/11/01]

September 30, 2002: Seymour Hersh of New Yorker magazine reveals that, despite a weak case against Zacarias Moussaoui, no federal prosecutor has discussed a plea bargain with him since he was indicted in November 2001. Hersh reports that "Moussaoui's lawyers, and some FBI officials, remain bewildered at the government's failure to pursue a plea bargain." Says a federal public defender, "I've never been in a conspiracy case where the government wasn't interested in knowing if the defendant had any information - to see if there wasn't more to the conspiracy." Apparently a plea bargain isn't being considered because Attorney General Ashcroft wants nothing less than the death penalty for Moussaoui. One former CIA official claims, "They cast a wide net and [Moussaoui] happened to be a little fish who got caught up in it. They know it now. And nobody will back off." A legal expert says, "It appears that Moussaoui is not competent to represent himself, because he doesn't seem to understand the fundamentals of the charges against him, but I am starting to feel that the rest of us are crazier ... we may let this man talk himself to death to soothe our sense of vulnerability." [New Yorker, 9/30/02]

October 22, 2002: The recent capture of would-be hijacker Ramzi Binalshibh (see September 11, 2002) is threatening the trials of Zacarias Moussaoui in the US and Atta associate Mounir Motassadeq in Germany. Binalshibh is connected to both, and would normally be an extremely important witness in both cases. But the US does not want Binalshibh to testify. Both Moussaoui and Motassadeq have a good chance to win their trials on the argument that they cannot get a fair trial if they cannot call Binalshibh as a witness. As a result, there is talk that the US may have to abandon Moussaoui's civilian court trial, and retry him in a military court. It appears a judge has delayed the Moussaoui trial until June 2003 to give the US time to interrogate Binalshibh. But the US wants to secretly interrogate him for a couple years, at least. [New York Times, 10/22/02, Washington Post, 10/23/02] Does Binalshibh know secrets about 9/11 that would embarrass the US?

Saudis Arabia Admit Hijackers of Sept. 11 Att 07.Dec.2002 15:50


Last updated at: (Beijing Time) Wednesday, February 06, 2002

Saudi Arabia acknowledged for the first time on Wednesday that 15 of the 19 hijackers in the attacks
on the World Trade Center and Pentagon were Saudi citizens, according to a report by chinadaily.com.cn.

"The names that we got confirmed that," Interior Minister Prince Nayef said in an interview with The
Associated Press. "Their families have been notified."

Previously, Saudi Arabia had said the citizenship of the 15 hijackers was in doubt despite U.S. insistence they
were Saudis.

Osama bin Laden - the chief suspect in the Sept. 11 attacks the killed more than 3,000 people - was Saudi
born but stripped of his citizenship in 1994.

Asked if he had information on whether bin Laden was dead or alive, Nayef said: "We have no information and
we have no interest in this subject."

Nayef also said the kingdom has detained about 30 people since the attacks, based on lists provided by
the United States. Some have been released.

Nayef said the men still in detention "have been influenced by bin Laden's thinking."

"It's possible that we will find among them members of the (al-Qaida) organization," he added. "But so far
we haven't found anything."

Nayef said the Saudi leadership was shocked to learn 15 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and said it
was natural that the kingdom had not noticed their involvement beforehand.

"How can I place the name of a Saudi on a blacklist when I have nothing to justify the action? The Saudis
are free to travel wherever they like."

"If we had known they were going to do what they had done, we would have stopped them," he said.

"I believe they were taken advantage of in the name of religion and regarding certain issues pertaining to the
Arab nation, especially the issue of Palestine," said Nayef.

Nayef said the oil-rich kingdown bears no responsibility for the actions of the hijackers.

"This is the truth ... and I defy anyone to prove it," he added.

The prince said there was no evidence so far of al-Qaida cells operating in Saudi Arabia, but added:

"There may be a limited number of people that we don't know about."

He promised "no mercy" for any al-Qaida radicals discovered "just as we showed no mercy before Sept. 11."

Maybe my way of thinking is simple, but... 08.Dec.2002 02:47

Relatively Exact

To tell you the truth, I was suspicious of the 9/11 attacks from the beginning for one simple reason:

They quoted all those cell phone calls from people on the planes, saying that they had been hijacked, expressing sentiments to loved ones, psyching up to "do something", etc.. However, I couldn't help but notice that not once...NOT ONCE...did any of them provide any kind of description of the hijackers.

Unless all airline passengers are routinely subjected to "PC" brainwashing when boarding a flight, you'd think that at least one of the cell phone callers would say something like, "We're being hijacked by Middle-Eastern-looking guys", or at least, "They're foreigners." There were no such comments. No description of the hijackers of any kind was given, which could very well mean that the hijackers were of non-descript appearance.

I dunno. The content of those cell phone calls seems somehow a bit too pat. There's lots there to stir the emotions, but nothing whatever of any substance.

Whatever. Draw your own conclusions.

You are a Liar and a Rumor-Monger 08.Dec.2002 11:26

spam buster

Jeremy Glicks Phone call:
what he told his wife (paraphrased):

"Honey, it's bad news." "There are some very bad men on the plane. The men have a bomb and they have a knife. They are Arabic-looking men. They are wearing red headbands and there are three of them.".

"We've had no contact with the pilots, but the men have taken over the plane and have moved everyone to the back of the plane and left us here."

"Lyz I need to know something. One of the other passengers has talked to their spouse, and he said that they were crashing other planes into the World Trade Center. Is that true."...

Sandra Bradshaw's phone call:
what the flight attendant told her husband (paraphrased)

"Have you seen what's happening? Have you heard? We've been hijacked."

"The plane has been taken over by three men with knives. I got a close look at one of them sitting in the back row in first class. He has an Islamic look. They've put most of us in the rear of the plane but are keeping a few in first class. We're all back here getting hot water together and getting ready to take over the plane."


Alright , then 09.Dec.2002 06:53

Relatively Exact

Okay, "Spam Buster", I guess I stand corrected then. I apologize, which is the proper thing to do. I guess that brings up the question, then:

Considering the extent to which 9/11 and everything associated with it was (and still is) plastered all over the media, why wasn't that particular information made a bit more public? If I have to go to one particular website to get those quotes, something is wrong.

Forming an opinion based on information that turns out to be incomplete isn't being a liar, asshole. You're jumping to conclusions even quicker than me.

Besides, people who ask questions aren't "rumor-mongers". On the other hand, people who don't are little more than sheep.

My answer for 'You are a Liar and a Rumor-Monger 08.Dec.2002 11:26 ' 10.Sep.2005 17:25


I am refering to 'Jeremy Glicks Phone call:
what he told his wife (paraphrased):

"Honey, it's bad news." "There are some very bad men on the plane. The men have a bomb and they have a knife. They are Arabic-looking men. They are wearing red headbands and there are three of them.".and 'Sandra Bradshaw's phone call:what the flight attendant told her husband (paraphrased)"Have you seen what's happening? Have you heard? We've been hijacked."
"The plane has been taken over by three men with knives. I got a close look at one of them sitting in the back row in first class. He has an Islamic look.'

Here is is my answer: Ordinary Americans cannot differentiate Arabs from non-Arabs when non-Arabs such as Jews who wear Arabic clothes and speak Arabic and behave like Arabs.Soem non-Arabs such as Zionist agents are fluent in Arabic. If they wear arabic clothes, speak Arabic then you are going to say that they are Arabs eventhough u don't know Arabic language. This is what we call lebelling process! After all Jews look like an Arab.