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WHY THE WORLD HATES AMERICA

Why does everybody hate America? Gee, I have no clue whatsoever. Could it be because...
WHY THE WORLD HATES AMERICA

A problem for US State Department of State think about

It is an open secret that anti-American attitudes are gaining steam all over the world. They are quite evidently caused by Washington's pushy foreign policy.

The world, probably except for radical Islamic extremists, felt sympathetic toward the USA after the Sept. 11 tragedy. As a result of this sympathy, the White House won incredible support for its plans for a "war on terrorism." This made for such a rapid offensive against al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. Due to Washington's universal support, countries neighboring Afghanistan agreed to accept contingents of the USA and its NATO allies on their territories. Ruling regimes of these countries expected to receive assistance from the USA and support in their struggle against local radicals, which pose a great threat to the ruling regimes. In fact, the US Army given strong support to authoritarian regimes in the countries neighboring Afghanistan.

As the USA proceeds with its anti-terrorism struggle, anti-American attitudes are ever gaining steam. Attempts of Washington to deal with disagreeable countries under the guise of a war against bin Laden and al-Qaeda have caused a strong wave of criticism toward America's policies. Such attitudes are strong, not only in "pariah" countries (this definition is very insulting by the way), but even among America's allies in NATO. The White House often tries to settle its political and economic problems under the guise of "fighting terrorism." The situation in Iraq can serve an example in this case: Iraq is off limits for US companies seeking Iraqi oil. If Hussein is overthrown, the situation is likely to change drastically. However, oil producing companies from other countries will have to leave Iraq in this case (Russia).

The rest of the world dislikes the fact that the USA enjoys the status of the world's sole superpower and makes decisions contradicting the norms of international law. Even the opinions of the America's allies are often ignored at that; they are just presented with a fait accompli. However, the White House and the US State Department criticize domestic policies of other countries and become angry when the same is done towards the USA. What is strange is that the US media, which are bragging so much about their "freedom," support the same line as the White House and the US State Department. Popular American TV channels will hardly show unbiased videos about victims of bombings in Afghanistan. Even if some of this footage is shown, the number of the Sept. 11 tragedy victims is sure to be mentioned as well. This is nonsense! Are American pilots who bomb peaceful Afghan settlements better than al-Qaeda terrorists who bring down skyscrapers? Innocent people are victims in both cases.

The US government is perfectly aware of the anti-American attitudes or the world, and the problem is being considered. Can Washington solve this problem?

A special conference with participation of American and international experts is to be held by the US State Department in Washington on September 5-6. The conference is being organized on the initiative of the US government and will touch upon the causes of anti-Americanism all over the world. Twenty leading experts from the USA and foreign countries and about 50 officials from US governmental institutions will take part in the conference.

In Boucher's words, the US State Department has already investigated the causes of the anti-American attitudes in Europe, Russia, and Muslim countries. The upcoming conference is to be a culmination of the project. The manifestations and causes of anti-American attitudes in the world are to be studied at the conference. This is to be a closed conference; the list of participants won't be published.

It is hard to predict what conclusions the conference will come to and whether or not effective methods to stop the increase of the anti-American attitudes will be discovered. The results of the conference will be seen within the several next years. Washington won't be able to settle the problem by financing regimes loyal to it and cranking out propaganda only. It is time for Washington to understand that there is not only the USA but also other countries, and they shouldn't be judged by American standards.

Vasily Bubnov
PRAVDA.Ru

homepage: homepage: http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/08/29/35565.html

That little Green Monster... 18.Oct.2002 21:13

FWR

The reason that some, not most hate us, is because of that little green monster called Jealousy. The proof is in the pudding. How many people are standing in line to, and illegally immigrating to Cuba, North Korea, Iraq, Ethiopia, or any other "Turd" world country????

Well, that is one opinion.... 18.Oct.2002 21:29

pjtpdx

Honestly, how jealous do you think these people are? They think we are pigs....they think we use and abuse the rest of the world and sit around on our fat arses. And we fucking do too....I've lived outside of this country. I know damn well what people think of us...and you know what, they ain't wrong. The majority of the people in this country don't give a flying fuck about the rest of the world and now, when the chickens come home to roost, the scratch their heads and wonder why.

Wake up! We have been bastards to most of the rest of the world for decades now...our enemies enemy is our friend, until we can fuck them over...well now they are fucking us. So what should we do about it? How about take a step back, suck it up and make amends...it's like when we shot down the Chinese fighter plane and Bush refused to "apologise". All that he was asked to do was say "I am sorry this happened." No fault, no blame...but our heads are so firmly up our own arses we can't even say that.. and for that, more people might die.... hardly worth it, is it? It's like the fucking play ground in grade school.........

Well, that is one opinion.... 18.Oct.2002 21:29

pjtpdx

Honestly, how jealous do you think these people are? They think we are pigs....they think we use and abuse the rest of the world and sit around on our fat arses. And we fucking do too....I've lived outside of this country. I know damn well what people think of us...and you know what, they ain't wrong. The majority of the people in this country don't give a flying fuck about the rest of the world and now, when the chickens come home to roost, they scratch their heads and wonder why.

Wake up! We have been bastards to most of the rest of the world for decades now...our enemies enemy is our friend, until we can fuck them over...well now they are fucking us. So what should we do about it? How about take a step back, suck it up and make amends...it's like when we shot down the Chinese fighter plane and Bush refused to "apologise". All that he was asked to do was say "I am sorry this happened." No fault, no blame...but our heads are so firmly up our own arses we can't even say that.. and for that, more people might die.... hardly worth it, is it? It's like the fucking play ground in grade school.........

what shithole of a country did you visit?? 18.Oct.2002 21:45

FWR

What Chinese Fighter plane?

Are you talking about the one flown by Wrong Way or whatever his name was who tried to cut off our Recon plane and bumped into it?

I'm from Illinois, and I have never seen a cow step on a rabbit. That's what that Recon plane was a big cow, and a fighter is a small swift rabbit. It can get out the way of a cow anytime it wants...

And yes, it was 100 correct to flight it on a Spy flight. That's how we found out about the North Koreans weapons program. Not by asking them...

If this isn't the accident you are talking about I apologize. If this is what you are talking about, then you need to go back to the bong you are toaking on..

As far as people hating us, I don't know what stupid group of euro hippies you were talking to when you visited overseas, but on my travels. And during my living overseas almost everyone I met love Americans And America including Arabic countries. Arabs are some of the warmest most generous people I have ever met, and not one of them ever expressed any displeasure for the US, they were too busy expressing displeasure with there own governments..

fuzzy logic 18.Oct.2002 21:52

x

People love the ability to have a good life, for economic advancement and opportunity for their kids. For this, they love coming to America. But that doesn't mean that the very same people can't have at times a view that it sucks to be on the other side of bombs and global imperialism. The American lifestyle is supported by a capitalist system that is not sustainable (and no, I'm not speaking as an anti-capitalist as modified capitalism can work -- but that's beyond the discussion of this note...just wanted to say to you that I'm not an anarchist or a liberal, but I'm also not ignorant, and a capitalist system that creates 500 people that control the wealth of 2 billion people, is, by definition, totally out of whack and unsustainable). The U.S. has humanity's fucked up tendency of framing everything in either/or Hegelian dialectical processes rather than alternative paradigms has created a world were the U.S., as the leading capitalist nation, has seen economic interest in being behind the death of over 13 million people directly linked to overt and covert wars since WW II. That is what people hate, among other things. But that doesn't mean that the very same people can't also love the many things that the U.S. has.

In the case of Osama Bin Laden (who was on our side for many years, by the way -- and trained by the CIA), his gripe is first and foremost U.S. military bases in Saudi Arabia and the U.S. influence over the oil market. Those bases were established under the pretext that Iraq was going to invade Saudi Arabia following it's move on Kuwait. But it is now documented fact that Iraq wasn't going to invade Saudi Arabia and that the U.S. government lied about troops massing on the Saudi Arabian boarder. You will never believe any of this. But it's still 100% fact. Maybe someday you'll care less about your dogmas and more about the study of history.

Stop thinking in either/or terms. Use parts of your brain that are not reptilian.

Fuzzy... 18.Oct.2002 22:01

FWR

you have to be an egghead professor at some stupid liberal arts college to be that out of touch with reality.

Its ok, I understand that if you were working in the real world you would have starved to death long ago...

1000 % disinformation 18.Oct.2002 22:06

FWR

It is not a documented fact at all. Hussein would invade any country that he thought he could get away with. You don't know what is in the mans mind anymore than I do.

As far as Bin Laden goes, he wasn't on our side, we were on his side in killing Commies...
When he decided to start killing Americans, that is where we parted ways, and as punishment will transform his precious Muslim world into just another place you can buy an McRib Sandwich..

Reply to Fuzzy Logic 18.Oct.2002 22:23

Bush Admirer

Fuzzy - Your logic really is fuzzy.

Read this and then we can talk:

 http://www.hazlitt.org/e-texts/poverty/

It doesn't matter what side 18.Oct.2002 22:51

kbw

I was at Johannesburg, I spoke with foreign ministers from Palastine, Pakastan, France, Germany, and others. World politics is a game who's rules were set a long time ago. Every country's media is biased. Take a look around and read THEIR websites. It's easy to do. THEY don't report about the bad things they are doing either. Even Iraq and IslamOnline.

It's very simple, every country will do what it takes to get on top. To further their goals. Lie, cheat, steal, kill. Every country's leaders will do this. To what degree and for what ends, differs. But saying US is bad, yadda is good. Is plain silly. They are just pissed that they aren't on top and the US is taking advantage of the situation. It's the game, any other country would do the same. But those are the rules of power.

In my discussions, the foreign officials were not mad. They were frusterated. I spoke with them face to face. They know they would do the same thing in the US position, but hoped that the US would help other countries get on top, and not step all over them. Hmmm, just different management styles.

If you think for one minute that anyone of you will change something by protesting or speaking your voice. You are in for a rude awakening and it's only for your benefit. Not for others. The people in power no the game. They no how to deal with citizens and protesters. There's nothing you can do to throw them for a loop. There is a reason why they are on top and you aren't. They've been doing it forever. Good luck.

P.S. Not that I want to be on top. But that's the cold hard truth. Get used to it.

Right Wing Scum 18.Oct.2002 23:06

Bush Hater

"What Chinese Fighter plane?
Are you talking about the one flown by Wrong Way or whatever his name was who tried to cut off our Recon plane and bumped into it?"

Too friggin' bad. That is what you get and what you deserve for sending your spook planes to sneak around another country's coastline.

"I'm from Illinois, and I have never seen a cow step on a rabbit. That's what that Recon plane was a big cow, and a fighter is a small swift rabbit. It can get out the way of a cow anytime it wants... "

You need to get the fuck back to Crackerville, Illinois or whatever Redneck hole you were spawned in. Like most American "patriots", you will justify any American crime, atrocity, or aggression with alot of belligerent chest-beating and fuzzy logic.

On the one hand, these clowns will try to rationalize bombing other countries and murdering thousands of people with alot of bullshit about "making the world safe for democracy". Or on the other hand, they will beat their chest about how they have a right to spy on the world (like when you crashed into that Chinese Fighter plane)--and then turn around and cry when you are challenged on it.

"And yes, it was 100 correct to flight it on a Spy flight. That's how we found out about the North Koreans weapons program. Not by asking them... "

Wrong, you fool. Its about time that other countries start sending their own Recon planes around the USA or, better yet, send some UN Weapons Inspectors to keep an eye on all the Weapons of Mass Destruction that America is developing. Hell, the United Nations should pass a tough new resolution authorizing the threat of force if America doesn't open up and allow inspectors access to all its WMD sites--starting with Fort Detrick, Maryland where all that Anthrax mysteriously came from.

"If this isn't the accident you are talking about I apologize. If this is what you are talking about, then you need to go back to the bong you are toaking on..
As far as people hating us, I don't know what stupid group of euro hippies you were talking to when you visited overseas, but on my travels. And during my living overseas almost everyone I met love Americans And America including Arabic countries. Arabs are some of the warmest most generous people I have ever met, and not one of them ever expressed any displeasure for the US, they were too busy expressing displeasure with there own governments.."

You can delude yourself all you want about how much the world loves America so much. You base your perspectives merely on your own little narrow experiences of the world.

Arab people love the American Empire. That is very funny. I guess that's why they are willing to die as martyrs crashing planes in the World Trade Center or Pentagon. That's also why some people in Kuwait (a leading American colony...I mean "ally" no less) attacked and killed some US Marines a week ago. That's why US occupation troops in Afghanistan are shot at so often that they don't dare come out at night. That is why the US military in Saudi Arabia lives in high security apartment complexes in which they are too afraid to venture out of.

Believe all the lies you want. Reality will be a different matter.

top Bush hater 18.Oct.2002 23:21

FWR

How does it feel to know the Senate is going back to the GOP in 3 weeks, and you will have Bush until 2008?

Oh, and don't forget, tell your friends, on election day.

VOTE GREEN!!!
VOTE GREEN!!!
VOTE GREEN!!!
VOTE GREEN!!!

PRAVDA?? 18.Oct.2002 23:27

FWR

I just looked at the "source of credibility".

Its a link to Pravda. Which is Russian for Truth..

boy, you guys need to try harder with this stuff. If you can't bullshit the idiots here, how do you expect to anyplace else?

Freedom vs Empire 19.Oct.2002 00:15

karlof1

A number of people read "Sum of All Fears" but never really figured out what Clancy was trying to point out: The US invites catastrophic terrorism because of its alliance with a state that essentially is counter to all of the values the US has promoted (mostly rhetorically) over the last 100+ years. And in a very realistic sense, the US is very lucky that the millions of people it has oppressed south of its borders have been content to focus their anger on the compradores who facilitate that oppression and exploitation; otherwise, the US would now be fighting a war on four fronts instead of two.

To a degree, of course, all of the events of the last year+ have been predictable; by definition, empires are hated and attacked by those it dominates who aspire to be free. The "Star Wars" saga has always been about the US empire and provides an interesting introspective perception into its hows and whys, while using the same Manichean construct as the received culture. Even one of the main currents in US history illuminates why people will fight empire: Turner's whole conception of the Frontier as "safety valve" and laboratory for democracy has been used by many historians to show that people will go to great lengths to oppose despotism in any form, and it is this fundamental current that FWR et al find themselves against and why they find themselves reduced to using scurrilous arguments.

FACT: People want to be free and will fight to be so. That the US has kept billions of people from obtaining their freedom opens it to attack by those yearning to be free. Patrick Henry in an oft quoted phrase said, "Give me Liberty, or Give me Death;" and the people of the world want no less.

us finished 19.Oct.2002 08:50

mike

The US will fall, and sooner than later. The Bush criminals spell their own destruction. As for all the followers of this travesty, such as FWR, etc, who spews nothing but hate and whose sole purpose here is to foment discord rather than any real semblance of truth, and who unconsciously and unknowingly contribute to their own demise as well by the Bush machine, we wish them well on their journey further into darkness.

question for FWR, Bush admirer 19.Oct.2002 11:05

curious

have either of you ever LIVED in another country, besides the USA?

i'm not talking about a 2-week ski vacation to the Swiss Alps, or being stationed as personnel at some US military base overseas.

want to know if either of you have LIVED in any other country for an extended period . . . on your own resources.

Answer to curious re living overseas 19.Oct.2002 11:24

Bush Admirer

No, I haven't 'lived' overseas for an extended period.

I have spent a total of about six months in Europe broken into 7 or 8 trips, mostly France, Italy, and Spain.

Would love to spend a year or so there. The people, the scenery, the history, and the food are all great. The governments suck, and therefore, so does the price of gasoline :-)

KBW: Why post? 19.Oct.2002 14:17

JAFO

Can't change anything, blah, blah. This is essentially the COINTELPRO line: stinky, ineffective hippies stay home.

If all govts tend toward the same ambitions, will you now call for an end to actions directed at curbing the power of Iraq, North Korea, Iran, enemy-du-jour? Or, if you believe that all govts tend toward evil, will you now argue for reducing the power of any govt that emerges as more powerful than the others, hence able to actually carry out evil at the expense of other nations? The first target of such a policy would of course be the US govt.

Or was your post just to rationalize the empires misdeeds?

FWR: naughty thoughts not the issue 19.Oct.2002 14:28

JAFO

What X referred to as 100% fact was this:
The USG made a specific claim that Iraqi troops were massing on the Saudi border (presumably in order to get Saudi Arabia to accept troops and bases on its soil and to give the world community a greater sense of the urgency of confronting Sadaam militarily.)

The claim was false. It was quickly contradicted by ex-military experts who bought and analyzed satellite photos of the border. Nearly a decade later, the mainstream media printed some small back-pages stories acknowledging that these experts had been right.

Whether Sadaam would have LIKED to go to Riyadh, is morally capable of such crimes, or planned someday to invade every country in the region is irrelevent. The fact is: USG lied about an invasion force assembling on the Saudi border.

We report you decide... 19.Oct.2002 15:47

FWR

I'm sure they showed the Saudis enough satellite photos to convince them not to make the same mistake the Kuwaitis made a month earlier when they showed them 400, 000+ Iraqi troops massing on their northern border.

Once again, you don't know what goes on in Hussein's mind, his own brother-in-law said this. But one thing about dictator's and bullies, they seek out the weak for exploitation. You may see the US this way, but the Saudis are free to kick us out of the country anytime they want.

Yes I have 19.Oct.2002 16:17

FWR

I lived and worked in Germany for a year, then backpacked in 1992 and 1993 all over europe, the former Soviet Union (formed my opinions on communisim there after seeing that mess), North Africa, and the Med.

Total Time overseas about 18 months. Backpacking (paid for by myself ) 4 months...

Married a foreign national too. An Ex commie, who would rather shoot a commie than look at one for what they did to her country.

I spen

Does this answer your question?

No such thing as tribbles, either 19.Oct.2002 16:50

GRINGO STARS

State capitalism. That's what the USSR was. Not communism. That's what THEY called it, but that's not what it was. Do you believe everything that the TV tells you, FWR?

FACT FOR FWR: Star Trek is NOT real.

VOTE GREEN!!! 20.Oct.2002 07:08

peace rebel cunt

vote green!!!
vote green!!!
vote green!!!
vote green!!!

OOOOFFF ! 23.Oct.2002 05:18

drunkenness and mild dislexia

I just re-read my above 5 points. There were several poor keystrokes on my part..it makes me look bad. Oh well, everybody hits the *wrogn* key sometimes when they are annoyed, thinking distractedly, and typing away...me bad, stupid bad, BAD BAD BAD, OK ? But not uninformed or illiterate at all. I will be extra careful to proofread my handouts to this site in the future, that's for sure.

But you never turned in your homework, "Gringo. " I thought that you wouldn't. So it goes...the useful idiots prophecied by the murderous Marxists of 100 years ago have indeed materialized..