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OK I change my mind. Censor the right wing asshole's posts!

this is getting old
This is getting old and annoying.

The antagonistic posts are outnumbering the informative and interesting posts.

I support a trial censorship run to see if these neanderthals will slink away like the creeps they are.
I second that motion 11.Oct.2002 09:36

K-dog

Yes, this baiting is getting very tiresome - if they were open for a debate it would be fine, but all they do is spam. It is all very much like high school all over again (unfortunately the average american is stuck in an 8th grade mentality for life). In this case I wouldn't call it "censorship" it's more like removing a cancerous tumour before it infects more of the organism.

They have no views to "censor" just regurgitated rhetoric aimed at pissing others off which discourages open communication rather than fostering it.

I THIRD! 11.Oct.2002 09:54

976475976879

They are in clear violation of the user guidlines. We can still have an open forum for all platforms without letting these people take over and ruin it for the majority of us.


It's not so much that they post but that they clog the flow of information and slow down discussion with people busying themselves with flaming the trolls.


We have been flooded, spammed and sent viruses. Is this CoIntelPro in action? I am the last to suggest this but kind of speculation, IF the serives of virus marketing or Cointelpro operatives were doing ANYTHING wouldnt it kind of look like this? And if it WAS, then we should TAKE ACTION to get them off of here!

This, of course, excludes the rants of bush admirer who I think may be a hoax or parody.

IMC Editors-Are You Paying Attention? 11.Oct.2002 09:59

Anti-Fascist

Time for you to get busy on the fascist trolls!

They piss me off too, but... 11.Oct.2002 10:09

free speech and an opportunity

I hate 'em too.

But they are an opportunity to practice. They represent a very present minority in this country and if we can't engage them in dialog then they will disrupt any revolution we try to bring forth.

dialog 11.Oct.2002 10:27

...

Engage them in dialog?!? Have you tried to engage them in dialog? Dialog is not what they are capable of.

you CANT engage them and that is the problem 11.Oct.2002 10:31

ya

You CANT engage them in discussion THATS why they should be removed to the compost heap. They aren't here for disussion they are here to disrupt our activities PERIOD. the end.

in no way are they here to share or be a part of the community -THEY ARE HERE TO DESTROY IT.

and we must remove them.


we can remove them and keep the ideal of open forum. This is not censorship of alternative ideas, this is clearing the space of abuse and harrasment.

thats the way I see it anyway.

dialog? 11.Oct.2002 10:33

Salamander

When people are coming to the site to disrupt it, they are not interested in dialog.

Dialog will not always work. Sometimes rude, dangerous and/or immature behavior needs to be stopped. That is intelligent action. That is natural wisdom.

still an opportunity to practice 11.Oct.2002 10:37

tip

still an opportunity to practice, just go to the recycling bin and practice away:

 http://portland.indymedia.org:8081/front.php3?article_id=25984&group=webcast

yes, we're paying attention 11.Oct.2002 10:50

spArk

here online and in person, the pdx community has been making its wishes known and pdx indy activists are listening.

the current attack against the website is new and is clearly a coordinated effort to harm its effectiveness. these attacks began after the A22 bush protest, and really swung into gear after the Not In Our Name event. it's certainly possible that some of the people posting are being paid to do so. is it "Free Speech" to assail a volunteer-supported community resource with the intent of disrupting it? not in my opinion.

now is the time for self-defense. the powers-that-be are targeting activists and their organizations in many ways. that's what the trumped-up charges against the forest activists and the Iman are about. that's what the USA PATRIOT act is about. that's what happened when the italian police planted molotov cocktails in an activist space in genoa last year. this is a struggle of the oppressed against our oppressors, and we will be quickly defeated if we reject common sense to stand on some principle of the intellect. yes it would be optimal to have a newswire with no hidden posts in it, but to try to live up to that ideal now would be to let the perfect drive out the good, and leave us just with the bad.

thank you to everyone in the community who has been speaking out about this issue. you are being heard and we are taking action.

Hypocrits 11.Oct.2002 11:00

Watcher

"is it "Free Speech" to assail a volunteer-supported community resource with the intent of disrupting it? not in my opinion."

Is it "Free Speech" to assail the community at large with the intent of disrupting it? Not in my opinion.

Is it free speech to invade private property or business with the intent of disrupting it? Not in my opinion.

I could go on.

thanks 11.Oct.2002 11:06

give and take

thank you spark! I use PDX IMC every day and I really care about it quite alot. The recent outbreak of spam (and CoIntelPro?) is REALLY disruptive. The trolls have made it CLEAR beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are not here to contribute to the community -they are here to destroy it.

Thanks again.

Hypocrits #2 11.Oct.2002 11:12

Watcher

I'd add, while holding up a mirror to your own ideals....

It's just words. Words can't hurt you. It's not like they're launching cyber attacks on your servers or trying to damage your equipment or shut down your site.

They are words. They are antagonistic and annoying and sometimes enraging. They can be ignored.

The signs you hold up and the words you shout at protests are antagonistic and annoying and sometimes enraging. They can also be ignored.

Be happy the posters can't blockade your house, or your job, or your street, and have the same affect on your day that you have on theirs when you "take over the streets". Be happy they can't slam their fists on your property, or stand in front of your door and not allow you to pass, or break your windows, or throw things at you. Be happy they can't stand in front of your house and scream profanity and beat drums and leave it scattered with profanity-filled signs and litter.

It's words. *Typed* words at that. Pretty sensitive of you to get the panties in a bunch over it considering the tactics that the supporters of this site employ.

Watcher 11.Oct.2002 11:40

A. Ver

gov't ops get all the free speech they want on corporate media, backed by guns, oil and dopes like you. unknot your panties and move on.

FOUND ON THE PALESTINE INDY SITE 10-10 11.Oct.2002 11:42

atomic frog

SHOULD THIS BE CENSORED?? I THINK SO!

MAY YOU ALL DIE : Palestine Indymedia



 http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/82143_comment.php#82305
MAY YOU ALL DIE
by STANLEY COHEN Thursday October 10, 2002 at
07:52 PM

THIS IS WHAT IS HOPEFULLY YOUR FUTUR
MAY ALL YOU FUCKIN ARABS BURN IN HELL AND DIE AS
WELL AS YOUR CHILDREN WHO NEED TO BE SKINNED ALIVE
AND SALTED, DR BARUCH GOLDSTEIN WAS THE ONLY SMART
JEW THERE EVER WAS, WHO KILLED 30 OF THOSE CAMEL
FUCK OR (ARAB) AS YOU GUYS CALL THEM.
YOU ALL NEED TO BURN WORTHLESS PEICES OF SHIT AND
YOU SHOULD ALL BE THROWN INTO CONCENTRATION CAMPS
AND GASSED TO DEATH AND YOUR CHILDREN TOO!!!

ANY ONE WHO SUPPORTS ME AND WANTS TO FILL OUT A
NEW PETITION I AM STARTING CAN EMAIL ME AT:
 burnnloot@aol.com
OR CALL ME AT: 212 979 7572
OR BY MAIL: Stanley Cohen
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USA
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by atomic frog Friday October 11, 2002 at 01:53
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YOU SHOULD SETTLE DOWN BEFORE YOU HAVE A STROKE.
THAT HAPPENED TO MY MOM. NOBODY WAS GOOD ENOUGH.
SOMETHING WRONG WITH EVERY ONE AND EVERYTHING.
I AM NEITHER JEW OR ARAB BUT STILL NOTICED YOUR
SHORT CIRCUT. SCREAM THAT POISON INTO A TREE . THE
TREE CAN TAKE IT.
NOWDAYS IT'S A CRIME TO SPEW THAT HATRED IN
PUBLIC. SETTLE DOWN.
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