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Mugabe men use rape as revenge

Update on Mugabe-inspired oppression
Mugabe men 'use rape as revenge'
By Christina Lamb in Manicaland
(Filed: 25/08/2002)


Hundreds of girls as young as 12 are being raped or forcibly kept as concubines in rural Zimbabwe by President Robert Mugabe's youth militia as part of a campaign that human-rights lawyers have branded "systematic political cleansing" of the population.

"They are raping on a massive scale," said Frances Lovemore, a counsellor at the Harare-based Amani Trust which monitors torture. "Girls as young as 12 or 13 are being systematically taken and used and abused because of their families' political views."

The organisation is compiling video evidence that it hopes to use to help to bring Mr Mugabe to trial at the international court of human rights. An investigation by The Telegraph found that rape camps had been set up for youth militia and riot police in rural areas.

Victims living in hiding related how they had been gang-raped by police and self-styled war veterans, and had their genitals burnt with iron rods. They said that they had been abused in revenge for their parents not supporting Mr Mugabe, 78, in the presidential poll in March.

Other opponents of the government were badly beaten. As a final indignity, in a land where half the population is on the verge of starvation, victims claimed that militia members often urinated on the family food.

A former militia member recounted how he and others were instructed to attack wives and daughters of opposition sympathisers.

Human rights activists believe that this is part of a programme to drive out, kill or terrify into submission all those who oppose the president. Didymus Mutasa, the of Mr Mugabe's ruling Zanu-PF, has even spoken of halving the population to six million.

Details of the violence have emerged as world attention focuses on Mr Mugabe's campaign to evict white farmers while famine threatens.

Critics say the land reform programme is a cover for his war on opposition. "This isn't about race or land, it's about a political tyrant who wants to kill, break down and cripple all opposition," said Roy Bennett, a farmer who is an MP in Manicaland, eastern Zimbabwe, for the opposition Movement for Democratic Change.

homepage: homepage: http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/08/25/wzim25.xml

oh, yeah. 26.Aug.2002 01:18

Idi Amin

Just keep repeating that same old mantra...
"European intrinsically Evil, non-European intrinsically good" over and over and over and over and over...

I LOVE it how white American activists, many of them descended from slaveowners no doubt, but many also descended from whites who were slaves, or "indentured servants", as the euphemism went, will NOT touch this one with a ten-foot pole.

Kudos to ya for having the guts to publish this on an openly biased forum such as this. Keep it up.

Oh Idi 26.Aug.2002 10:47

ms. pissed

You just keep banging that same old drum. It's so sad you have to search so diligently for some thread of relevance on which to hang your bitterness.

naw 26.Aug.2002 16:05

idi

I REALLY do LOVE to watch liberals get their panties in a twist over stories like this one which underscore the fundamental contradictions and falsehoods of their belief systems. It's FUNNY. See, the term "bitterness" imples jealousy and envy. How could I envy stupidity and ignorance ? That would be STUPID. HAHAHAHa...

GO TO HELL AMIN AND TAKE MUGABE WITH YOU 26.Aug.2002 16:15

MANO NEGRO

You disgust me Idi Amin. So many people have struggled for years to raise awareness of the hateful behavior of various so-called "third world" dictators(read:non-european, with the exception of Japan). Why don't you do something for people instead of inflating your bitter apathetic little ego at the expense of people who already are?

huh ? 26.Aug.2002 17:11

idi's last mutter

Case in point. I merely thanked some poster for bringing this story to the Indy board (it's been all over the right-wing sites which I also monitor for quite a while) and noted how funny it is that people on this side of the fence want nothing to do with it, and the insults started flying. Hmm. Bitter apathetic little ego. That's pretty good. Noticed how I haven't personally insulted you yet, but ridiculed a particularly inflexible belief system ?
Noticed that not one person over here has anything to say actually about the story itself ?

Thought so. I'm done for now (yawn), y'all are just so entertaining. Time to summon the butler and slip into my silk sheets.

The original poster weighs in 26.Aug.2002 17:51

Paul

I posted this story because I figured that it would be a relevant topic on IndyMedia. However, as Idi Amin noted, people here want to brush it under the rug and pretend that it doesn't exist. This would be laughable if it wasn't so sad and disturbing. Unfortunately, the only victims that IndyMedia people care about are themselves and those that are victims of the supposedly "fascist US gov't." I feel very sorry for those unfortunates who are merely oppressed by their native African / Palestinian governments as nobody in the left wants to take up their cause. It simply doesn't fit into their preconceived world-view.

To Ms Pissed: I don't find Idi Amin's reply "sad." What I find sad is that innocent 12 year old girls are being raped by the henchmen of Mugabe, their parents and livestock are being slaughtered, and AIDS is spreading widely. This is what I find utterly sad. The fact that nobody here cares is horrid.

To Mano Negro: Nobody here in IndyMedia is taking up the cause of third-world dictators. Every crime against humanity committed by Mugabe / Arafat is blissfully ignored or "defended." In another thread here, some fascist leftist goon went on about how he was sick of whites in Africa and how it was right to take their land and kill them. I find this disgusting. Where is the desire to get along with other races? In the IndyMedia circle, this noble goal has been bastardized to a simple self-hatred which improves no one.

Idi Amin, you are correct to point out that IndyMedia folks have a fanatical belief in their dogma. Out of one corner of their mouth they curse religious dogma and then in the next breath lash out at those who disagree with their dangerous ideas.

If you want to HYPE UP a population... 26.Aug.2002 18:07

John W.

...threats made, no matter in what context or even entirely without context, can be made with impunity, especially in an environment (in the US and much of the West) already overflowing with emotionally-potent oversimplifications on this topic. Let's be a little more honest with ourselves, for once, shall we? While genuine rape does exist (especially in the insanity of actual war zones), we must be more thoughtful if we are to create anything seriously different from what passes for mainstream media; and by being more thoughtful, we're going to have to pay attention to the way HYPE plays its games time and again. Let's look at Africa and let's look at some contexts for once, instead of just trusting everything that supposedly apolitical "nongovernmental" organizations tell us. Do yourself a favor and spend some time over at Africa2000.com. You'll find Africans, themselves, talking about issues that pertain to them, and in a light which even IMC media seems, so far, incapable of presenting. First of all, African countries are under HEAVY attack from all points. They have been for quite a few centuries now; but today's warfare has taken on some new angles. There's AIDS, certainly; and there's the situation with the virtual deployment of a new kind of missionary: the hot-under-the-collar "protect the children" type. They're pretty much an interesting breed. How so? They come to these different cultures quite heavily inebrieated in MORAL RIGHTEOUSNESS; that is, often authoritarian beliefs about which ways of doing things are RIGHT and which are categorically WRONG. Let's take the topic of young people having the right to choose how they want to use their own body. Say to remain more economically free than their "First World" peers. That topic was a TOTAL hysteria in the Left (and quite silenced in the Right), and if you dared to challenge the knee-jerk beliefs of a large number of well-hyped-up indymedia-ists, the scene would not be pretty. In fact, all the claims of having balance went entirely out of the window along with the baby and the bathwater. Then, in the year 2000, Mother Jones magazine countered the VERY authoritarian "conventional wisdom" with this article: "Underage Unions", in which the author mentioned one group of 14,000 young people under 18 who had successfully organized a counter view and idea. Maybe a handful of IMC posters, like myself, got the word out, and suddenly, IMC posters/reporters across the world couldn't help but begin asking significant questions, like the one about one of the groanup groups' ideological immovability (see the article). Have you learned anything? Naw, you're about as ideologically challenged as your average CNN reporter when it comes to topics that aren't fashionable! You MIGHT have actually thought through they way the GAME is played over and over! So, we've got a culture in Africa which hasn't been FORCED to tow the Western MORALITY GAME on another issue of how young people sometimes choose to utilize their bodies. Western authoritarianism declares that young people called children CAN NEVER have choice when it comes to having some mutually pleasurable touch and kisses between themselves and their older friends. Now, of course, I don't know the specifics of this particular case, but I DO KNOW how the game is played. You are to get completely hysterical, and then ****you will promote the carrying out of policies in which are not really in the interests of kids at all***** Can a 14 year old have the intelligence to choose to *consent*? US ideology say NO, NEVER and "children" of 14 MUST ALWAYS be "protected" by the most authoritarian RESTRICTIONS; in Canada, the situation is quite a bit different. There, there's such a thing as "protection by enrichment" of 14-year-olds; kids there are educated about the dangers coercion, but they're also educated in positive ways as well. So, 14-year-olds there are viewed as capable enough to figure some things out for themselves. That's pretty liberating. In The Netherlands, the *age of consent* can be as low as 12, provided that the youth and their parent or guardian consent to a relationship that their ward is in. When they all consent, police cannot initiate an investigation. That's also pretty liberating. In the USA, and in the minds of persons highly indoctrinated by the therapeutic state, that kind of choice is categorically impossible. So, it's pretty easy to get y'all hyped up on that one. Isn't it about time that you looked beyond your knee-jerk-reactions? Text to watch out for: kept as concubines raping on a massive scale systematically taken and used and abused (but raped?) rape camps political tyrant (or someone who isn't following US/NATO orders?) Now, let me say it again, in war situations you WILL find PLENTY of insanity, and actual rape is sure to be one device used to "break" the spirits of a population under attack. Yet the article doesn't focus on anything with much meat; it doesn't look at *exactly* what Mugabe's policies are. Let's remember that: 1) ALL states do horrible things to their subjects, not least the authoritarian political movements amongst them on the Right AND Left. 2) The Left's much-loved Daniel Ortega (of Nicaraguan Sandinista fame) ALSO came under sex abuse HYSTERIA at an interesting time, when he was alleged to have sexually abused some teenaged girl. What can we learn from all of this? We can learn that sex hysteria is definitely one of the biggest DEVICES of propagandists; and when it is used, contexts, others' cultural norms, and even actual checkable facts DON'T NEED TO BE GOTTEN. Very interesting, eh? an incomplete source for further information on the consequences of hysteria: "Ideas" on Canada's CBC radio, has covered several interesting issues surrounding sex abuse hysteria. The one below is the only one they still have up on their site. They USED to have audio recordings online about how police and media LIED about a case involving several teenagers: Victims of Justice first broadcast on IDEAS 13-14 May 1999: http://radio.cbc.ca/programs/ideas/sounds/index.html

OOOps, that was bad, try this one, with html 26.Aug.2002 18:18

John W.

If you want to HYPE up a population...
...threats made, no matter in what context or even entirely without context, can be made with impunity, especially in an environment (in the US and much of the West) already overflowing with emotionally-potent oversimplifications on this topic.

Let's be a little more honest with ourselves, for once, shall we? While genuine rape does exist (especially in the insanity of actual war zones), we must be more thoughtful if we are to create anything seriously different from what passes for mainstream media; and by being more thoughtful, we're going to have to pay attention to the way HYPE plays its games time and again.

Let's look at Africa and let's look at some contexts for once, instead of just trusting everything that supposedly apolitical "nongovernmental" organizations tell us. Do yourself a favor and spend some time over at Africa2000.com. You'll find Africans, themselves, talking about issues that pertain to them, and in a light which even IMC media seems, so far, incapable of presenting.

First of all, African countries are under HEAVY attack from all points. They have been for quite a few centuries now; but today's warfare has taken on some new angles. There's AIDS, certainly; and there's the situation with the virtual deployment of a new kind of missionary: the hot-under-the-collar "protect the children" type. They're pretty much an interesting breed. How so?

They come to these different cultures quite heavily inebrieated in MORAL RIGHTEOUSNESS; that is, often authoritarian beliefs about which ways of doing things are RIGHT and which are categorically WRONG.

Let's take the topic of young people having the right to choose how they want to use their own body. Say to remain more economically free than their "First World" peers. That topic was a TOTAL hysteria in the Left (and quite silenced in the Right), and if you dared to challenge the knee-jerk beliefs of a large number of well-hyped-up indymedia-ists, the scene would not be pretty. In fact, all the claims of having balance went entirely out of the window along with the baby and the bathwater.

Then, in the year 2000, Mother Jones magazine countered the VERY authoritarian "conventional wisdom" with this article: "Underage Unions", in which the author mentioned one group of 14,000 young people under 18 who had successfully organized a counter view and idea. Maybe a handful of IMC posters, like myself, got the word out, and suddenly, IMC posters/reporters across the world couldn't help but begin asking significant questions, like the one about one of the groanup groups' ideological immovability (see the article).

Have you learned anything? Naw, you're about as ideologically challenged as your average CNN reporter when it comes to topics that aren't fashionable!

You MIGHT have actually thought through they way the GAME is played over and over!

So, we've got a culture in Africa which hasn't been FORCED to tow the Western MORALITY GAME on another issue of how young people sometimes choose to utilize their bodies. Western authoritarianism declares that young people called children CAN NEVER have choice when it comes to having some mutually pleasurable touch and kisses between themselves and their older friends.

Now, of course, I don't know the specifics of this particular case, but I DO KNOW how the game is played. You are to get completely hysterical, and then ****you will promote the carrying out of policies in which are not really in the interests of kids at all*****

Can a 14 year old have the intelligence to choose to *consent*? US ideology say NO, NEVER and "children" of 14 MUST ALWAYS be "protected" by the most authoritarian RESTRICTIONS; in Canada, the situation is quite a bit different. There, there's such a thing as "protection by enrichment" of 14-year-olds; kids there are educated about the dangers coercion, but they're also educated in positive ways as well. So, 14-year-olds there are viewed as capable enough to figure some things out for themselves. That's pretty liberating.

In The Netherlands, the *age of consent* can be as low as 12, provided that the youth and their parent or guardian consent to a relationship that their ward is in. When they all consent, police cannot initiate an investigation. That's also pretty liberating.

In the USA, and in the minds of persons highly indoctrinated by the therapeutic state, that kind of choice is categorically impossible. So, it's pretty easy to get y'all hyped up on that one.

Isn't it about time that you looked beyond your knee-jerk-reactions?

Text to watch out for:
kept as concubines
raping on a massive scale
systematically taken and used and abused (but raped?)
rape camps
political tyrant (or someone who isn't following US/NATO orders?)

Now, let me say it again, in war situations you WILL find PLENTY of insanity, and actual rape is sure to be one device used to "break" the spirits of a population under attack. Yet the article doesn't focus on anything with much meat; it doesn't look at *exactly* what Mugabe's policies are.

Let's remember that:
1) ALL states do horrible things to their subjects, not least the authoritarian political movements amongst them on the Right AND Left.
2) The Left's much-loved Daniel Ortega (of Nicaraguan Sandinista fame) ALSO came under sex abuse HYSTERIA at an interesting time, when he was alleged to have sexually abused some teenaged girl.

What can we learn from all of this? We can learn that sex hysteria is definitely one of the biggest DEVICES of propagandists; and when it is used, contexts, others' cultural norms, and even actual checkable facts DON'T NEED TO BE GOTTEN.

Very interesting, eh?


an incomplete source for further information on the consequences of hysteria:

"Ideas" on Canada's CBC radio, has covered several interesting issues surrounding sex abuse hysteria. The one below is the only one they still have up on their site. They USED to have audio recordings online about how police and media LIED about a case involving several teenagers:
Victims of Justice first broadcast on IDEAS 13-14 May 1999:
http://radio.cbc.ca/programs/ideas/sounds/index.html


To John W 26.Aug.2002 18:53

Paul

John W, this topic is not about pedophelia. I don't know why you're dragging this into it. This is about organized rape by Zimbabwe's government policy.

One pertinent (and painful example) is the story of Dora (age 12) who was gang-raped by Mugabe's men for four hours.

See:  http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$2UCS2L4ZARQABQFIQMGSFGGAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2002/08/25/wzim125.xml

If nobody at IndyMedia wants to deal with this issue, then it just exposes the rampant hypocrisy here.

good. 26.Aug.2002 18:56

idi's back for a second

This is exactly the type of constructive debate that I was hoping to stir up. Refreshing and educational. Thank you, and without sarcasm. Here's another moral dilema I can't seem to resolve : When the European Colonial powers were beginning to pull out of parts of Africa wholesale in the 1960's there was fear of a total bloodbath. The documentary film "Africa Addio", while accused of a total racist bias, and I won't debate that here, did record some terrible, savage, shocking events. The wealthy white colonialists who lived there indicated that they were going to flee, and with good reason. They were begged to stay, with their systems of law, industry, commerce, transporation, finance and general infrastructure. Some did stay on the condition that they would be spared, and that in a few generations that their children would be spared property expropriation. Today, look at what Gen. Mugabe is up to. Now, granted, Slavery and Colonialism were wrong and awful, and that a desire for revenge would be certian on the part of it's victims, but, you know, a deal is a deal, right ?

So who is the villian here, speaking of simplistic analyses ? I sure as hell don't know.

Good question Idi 26.Aug.2002 21:18

Paul

That's a somewhat difficult question. My simplistic answer would be that two wrongs don't make a right. I can understand how there is a backlash against white farmers but to act in this way is totally inexusable. It's also tearing Zimbabwe apart and spreading starvation. This serves no one.

you're all whacked 26.Aug.2002 21:52

^^^^^^^^^

this isn't even a discussion, just a series of unrelated rants. and, hey paul, why don't you step down from YOUR high horse and away from your terminal resentment of those you see as INDYMEDIA. it's seeming a lot like a mental disorder.

typical 26.Aug.2002 22:15

amin

Yup, typical. If you don't understand somebody's opinion, then they are crazy, if someone feels passionately about a topic that you cannot understand or you cannot disprove thier allegations, then their argument is a "rant." The topic here is moral relativism in the academic left and it's manefestation in the biases rampant in Indymedia, AND the inability or unwillingness of those who compose most of Indymedia's core constituent to either admit to or see this bias. Case in point : The atrocities and pillaging under Mugabe and the refusal of the left, both mainstream and Indymedia to come to terms with this, as it upsets some of the very basic tenets of the leftist and anarchist canon, at the same time that these very same people, namely the core group of Indymedia, cry loudly and fervently about identical atrocities committed by the puppet states of the regime they seek to overthrow.

That simple enuf for ya, "^^^^", ?

so... 26.Aug.2002 22:37

^^^^^^^

what you're doing about these atrocities is ranting at activists on indymedia? did you suggest anything even vaguely constructive?

sometimes the bad reception isn't simply due to a bad receiver.

it would help if you could state facts and sources, without going on and on about these stupid activists/indymedia people who can only think about their own misfortunes. talk about misunderstanding an issue. frankly, you don't seem open enough to warrant the time and energy it would take to point out the obvious about the protests and your warped take on them.

you're not being ignored because the issue is too awful. you're being written off because it seems you have no real point.

simple enough for ya?

Ranting? 27.Aug.2002 00:35

Paul

I agree that sometimes a poor reception isn't always due to a poor receiver...but in this case it is. The Mugabe issue is a very valid issue that deserves to be discussed on this website but it is not being addressed in the slightest way by the folks here. The Taco Bell protest (!) got way more feedback than widespread murders and rapes in Zimbabwe. You could say that it is because these occured in a foreign land while the "ruthless," "fascist," and "intolerant" Taco Bell actions take place in Portland. However, if you look deeper into the situation, you see that Mugabe is beyond reproach here. I haven't seen any condemnation of him here. Have you? The conclusion I reach is that folks here don't see any point in criticising Mugabe since he isn't a tool of the "fascist US gov't." Only US-inspired dictators need apply for criticism here. My larger point is that people here need to open their eyes and stop trying to see everything through the lens of "US conspiracies" or "fascism."

I wouldn't call this constructive criticism of Indymedia folks as ranting. In any case, since when is ranting discouraged on IndyMedia...that's what most of this site unfortunately is. My comments aren't anywhere near the fevered pitch of the wild-eyed ranting that normally takes place on the site. I guess that when you disagree with my point, you see it as ranting. But when somebody here is blasting the Portland Police / US Gov't, they aren't really ranting, are they? Which euphemism would you prefer I use for that?

you keep changing the subject 27.Aug.2002 03:11

yup, idi.

You keep changing the subject while refusing to refute the very points that the poster, and I, and others, have been trying to make for years. Yes, you are correct, when you assert that our criticisms are falling upon willingly closed minds and deaf ears. You are also equally on the ball when you use a psuedonym, as do I, as do many, on perhaps one of the last bastions of free speech in this country, or at least one of the most public. Perhaps I'm just a little older, or more paraniod, or flamboyant or
something...but "open" ? Hell, I've been about as open as possible, here anyway.

As far as constructive solutions to problems...we have an opportunity to spread information here, which is unprecedented, as far as "Pen vs. the Sword" arguments go.
How on earth can I sit by and watch the blatant old-school marxist hypocritical bias on this forum go unchallenged ? It is my DUTY, OK, to shake you up a little bit. Those of you reading this and not posting a really good critique of the current events in Africa, well, your silence is deafening. See you at Taco Bell, where we will save the
world one minimum-wage tomato-picker at a time.

Facts and sources ? On THIS topic ? I assume that you are reading this from a computer. Use a commonly avaliable search engine to do a bit of research on Mugabe's benevolent people's republic, and then search for condemnations of it in the mainstream left, and Indymedia.

Please, refute the argument. That's what this is here for. Prove this argument to be incorrect. We are waiting.

Consider the Source before you Swallow 27.Aug.2002 13:12

Racak Massacre

First of all, I think one should consider the source of this alleged incidents of rape as to determine whether it is true or false to begin with. The British UK Telegraph is a right wing mouthpiece which historically has no problem publishing propaganda about alleged atrocities committed by governments targeted by the West--often times these atrocities prove to be fabrications and fraud.

For example, go back and review the Telegraph's coverage of the alleged (and now discredited) propaganda about Iraqis killing Incubator babies during the Gulf War. This incident has been demonstrably proven to be a Big Lie.

Also, review the Telegraph's coverage of atrocities and ethnic cleansing allegedly commited by Yugoslavia. IN particular review the case of the so-called Racak Massacre, which has increasingly been thrown into question even by Western forensic teams--albeit, too late to discredit or oppose any NATO war effort.

That said, Robert Mugabe in particular is opposed by the West and especially America and Britain because he has not fully embraced the Neo-liberal capitalist reforms which the Western "Democracies" attempt to force on the rest of humanity. This is the primary reason why his adminstration has been subject not only to the predictable campaign of Western media disinformation but also to covert subversion--and not because of any putative Western concern for Democracy or Mugabe's repression.

Moreover, the misnamed Movement for Democratic Change is neither Democratic nor strictly an indiginous movement. IN fact, the MDC receives significant funding, support, and sponsorship from British (and of course American) Empires. And a movement sponsored and supported by British and American Imperialism can never--I repeat never--represent the true will or voice of the Zimbabean people.

If you critically examine the MDC's political positions on the issue of Neoliberalism and Free Market Reforms, you will see that these self-styled Democrats SUPPORT these decidedly undemocratic Economic reforms and policies which impoverish and destroy the lives and welfare of entire continents, let alone nations.

It is very telling that some Western Progressives (and anti-globalization activists) have backed the pro-globalization MDC--simply because they wrap their agenda in the rhetoric and cover of "Democracy." Apparently, all you have to do to win a Western Liberal's Heart is to spout alot of phraseology and lies about "Democracy and Freedom"--all in order to disguise and cover over one's true agenda.

Finally, in response to the comments made by "Paul" that he posted this article beacuse "Unfortunately, the only victims that IndyMedia people care about are themselves and those that are victims of the supposedly "fascist US gov't." I feel very sorry for those unfortunates who are merely oppressed by their native African / Palestinian governments as nobody in the left wants to take up their cause. It simply doesn't fit into their preconceived world-view."

What Paul fails to mention is that the Zimbabwean people are being victimized by the demonstrably Fascist US Government--primarily through the USA's attempt to implement its predatory Free Market reforms through its proxy of the MDC.

Indeed, Paul's noble attempt to enlighten Indymedia readers about the situation in Zimbabwe is as disingenous as it is one-sided, as I have briefly illustrated above.

The problem with the native African and Palestinian governments which Paul claims to be concerned about is that they represent the interests of Western Imperialist powers--rather than their own people. This is true of the Palestinian Authority as it is true of others. What the West (and most likely Paul) understand is the fact that if these government really did represent the democratic will of their people, they would be in fundamental conflict with the West and its predatory policies. Hence, their rhetoric about "democracy" is an outright fraud and lie--nothing more than a euphemism for a Western controlled and backed puppet state--similar to say the pro-American regime of Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan.

I wonder if a democrat like Paul shows the same spirit or dedication in posting articles about American repression and exploitation around the world on mainstream or Right Wing websites in order to educate the American masses in the same manner he wishes to do with Indymedia readers?