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Here it is folks, worst of the global newswire for the night of May 28 02.
When the global indymedia newswire began to receive an upsurge in the number of stories posted to it several people put together -best of- collections as a way of countering the time consuming task of reading through the many pages to find what they considered the most interesting and relevant material. Eventually a change of format was instituted in response to the higher volume and the questionable and outright racist content of some posts. The changes have without a doubt cut down the amount of traffic on the newswire but whether the problem of racist content been dealt with is another matter. Here is the inverse of the -best of- idea, provided just in case you missed what's going on at global IMC.

I submit for your scrutiny excerpts from the global indy newswire as it appeared last night. These were posted from 12:21am to 5:03 am and as of this moment are still there. For those of us who are against racism and participate by providing content to the newswire by posting news and comments this poses a dilemma. I ask whether contributing to media that is also providing a platform for hate and deception doesn't serve to legitimize this material.
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Anti-Defamation League Labels Conservative Event 'Extremist' (english)
Bill 5:03am Tue May 28 '02

Leave it to the dirty filthy disgusting Jews to determine what can and cannot be said or demonstrated against in this country. Who do these stinking hymies think they are to decide for the people if they should or should not pay tax. You see the problem is the dirty Jew propensity for money regardless of whose it is. When the hooked nose scum smell the green backs it is like piranha going after prey. The only true place for the heebes is in the ovens. Hitler was right about them destroying the economy in Germany and trying to rule through economy.
 http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=182941&group=webcast

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THE HIDDEN TYRANNY (english)
......... 3:54am Tue May 28 '02

The most revealing and shocking interview of a Jew, Mr. Rosenthal, an influential Jew learned in the Jewish ways and involved in the workings of government in Washington, D.C., explained the Jewish involvement and cause of the major problems we face today.
 http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=182935&group=webcast

"...Radio Islam is against racism of all forms, against all kinds of discrimination of people based on their colour of skin, faith or ethnical bakground. Consequently, Radio Islam is against Jewish racism towards non-Jews."

"...But how could such a small number of Jews enslave so many people and gain such an overwhelming control over their governments, especially without their being aware of it? The answer to this may be found in Christ's parable of the unjust steward, which represents Jewry. They are able to prevail in the world despite their ungodly ways because of their cunning and shrewd ways. As Christ said--"For the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."Luke 16:8

In other words, the Jew, with his worldly mind set, is craftier than God's Christian people. When you read the words of Mr. Rosenthal the reality of this statement will come to light. This problem was so prevalent and important for us to overcome that Christ had instructed us to "be wise as serpents" Matt 10:16"

"...We are interested in just the opposite; in the diminution, the killing out of the Goyim." (Reportedly spoken by a Jewish speaker in the Rothschild home in 1773)"

"...The Nations will exhort to tranquility. They will be ready to sacrifice everything for peace, but WE WILL NOT GIVE THEM PEACE until they openly acknowledge our International Super-Government, and with SUBMISSIVENESS." (Zionist Congress at Basle in 1897)"

"...We Jews, who have posed as the saviors of the world. We are today, nothing but the worlds seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its executioners. There is no further doubt that the influence of the Jews today justify a very careful study and cannot possibly be viewed without serious alarm." (The World Significance of the Russian Revolution)"

"Russian Czarism, the German Empire and militarism are overthrown, all peoples are being pushed towards ruin. This is the moment in which the true domination of Jewry has its beginning." (Judas Schuldbuch, The Wise Men of Zion)"

"...The right place for the League of Nations is not Geneva or the Hague, Ascher Ginsberg has dreamed of a Temple on Mount Zion where the representatives of all nations should dedicate a Temple of Eternal Peace. Only when all peoples of the earth shall go to THIS temple as pilgrims is eternal peace to become a fact." (Ascher Ginsberg, in The German Jewish paper Judisch Rundschu, No. 83, 1921) Ascher Ginsberg is stated to have rewritten the "Protocols of Zion," in "Waters Flowing Eastwards," page 38."

"...Personally, I am more than ever inclined to believe that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are genuine. Without them I do not see how one could explain things that are happening today. More than ever, I think the Jews are at the bottom of all our troubles." (Nesta Webster, in a letter written May 4, 1934, to Arthur Goadby, published in Robert E. Edmondson's, I Testify, p. 129)"

"...Even before Roosevelt, the Jewish influence upon Woodrow Wilson (1913-21) was quite evident, as Henry Ford wrote in 1921 "Mr. Wilson, while President, was very close to the Jews. Hisadministration, as everyone knows, was predominantly Jewish." The International Jew, Dearborn Publishing Co., Vol. III, p. 28-9."

"It being true that the Delanos are wellknown Jews from the Netherlands, President Roosevelt is, from the standpoint of Jewish Heredity Law, as good a Jew as Bernard M.Baruch." (Letter of May 14, 1939, by Dr. von Leers) "Although a Republican, the former Governor has a sincere regard for President Roosevelt, and his politics. He referred to the 'Jewish ancestry' of the President, explaining how he is a descendent of the Rossocampo family expelled from Spain in 1620. Seeking safety in Germany, Holland and other countries, members of the family, he said, changed their name to Rosenberg, Rosenbaum, Rosenblum, Rosenvelt and Rosenthal. The Rosenvelts in North Holland finally became Roosevelt, soon becoming apostates with the first generation and other followingsuit until, in the fourth generation, a little storekeeper by the name of Jacobus Roosevelt was the only one who remained true to his Jewish Faith. It is because of this Jewish ancestry, former Governor Osborn said, that President Roosevelt has the trend of economic safety (?) in his veins." (Chase S. Osborn, 1934 at St. Petersburg, Florida, The Times Newspaper)."

"...(4) This is the same dialogue spoken by communist revolutionary leaders.

We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tension. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by the whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to install in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros.

We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause." (Israel Cohen 'A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century,' 1912, Congressional Record, p8557, 1957)"

"Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels," Weyl writes, "were neither internationalists nor believers in equal rights of all the races and peoples. They opposed the struggles for national independence of those races and peoples that they despised. They believed that the 'barbaric' and 'a historic' peoples who comprised the immense majority of mankind had played no significant role in history and were not destined to do so in the foreseeable future." (Karl Marx, by Nathaniel Weyl).

"We Jews have spoiled the blood of all races; We have tarnished and broken their power; we have make everything foul, rotten, decomposed and decayed." (The Way to Zion, Munzer)

"The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental quality." (Ben Wattenberg, Jewish 'philosopher,' in The Good News, The Bad News, p. 84)"

"...Mr. R. said: "During Christ's time, the Jews were seeking a material and earthly kingdom, but Christ offered the Jews a spiritual kingdom. This, they couldn't buy, so they rejected Jesus Christ and had him crucified."

"What do you mean had him crucified? Doesn't history prove that the Jews crucified Jesus Christ? To which he answered: "Yes, I guess they did. I don't beat around the bush, but 2,000 years ago your people would have done the same thing to a man who mistreated you, as Christ did the Jews."

"...Your people are so paranoid, it is obvious we can no longer permit you to exist. We cannot allow you to spread your filthy, immoral, Christian beliefs to the rest of the world. Naturally, you oppose World Government, unless it is under your Fascist Christian control. Who are you to proclaim that your Christian American way is the best? It is obvious you have never been exposed to the communist system. When nationalism is finally smashed in America. I will personally be there to firebomb your church, burn your Bibles, confiscate your firearms and take your children away. We will send them to Eastern Bloc schools and reeducate them to become the future leaders of a One World Government, and to run our Socialist Republic of America. We are taking over the world and there is nothing you can do to stop us." (Letter from a Spokane, Washington Jew to Christian Pastor Sheldon Emry). "The strongest supporters of Judaism cannot deny that Judaism is anti-Christian." (Jewish World, March 15, 1924)"

"...in Russia, there are two distinct governments - one visible and the other invisible. The visible is made up of different nationalities - whereas the invisible is composed of all Jews. The powerful Soviet secret police takes its orders from the invisible government. There are about six to seven million Communists in Soviet Russia. 50% are Jews and about 50% gentile - but the gentiles are not trusted. The Communist Jews are united and trust each other - while the others spy on one another. About every five or six Communist Jews are united and trust each other - while the others spy on one another. About every five or six years secret Jewish Board calls for the purge of the Party and many are liquidated."

"...Russian Communists have a Secret Group Order which consists of Jews only. They rule over everything pertaining to the visible government. It was this powerful organization that was responsible for the secret removal of the center of Communism to Tel Aviv from where all instructions now originate."

"...It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism. All that is in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews." (Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews andan Answer to all AntiSemites, p. 148, 1939)"

"...The Jews were now free to indulge in their most fervent fantasies of mass murder of helpless victims. Christians were dragged from their beds, tortured and killed. Some were actually sliced to pieces, bit by bit, while others were branded with hot irons, their eyes poked out to induce unbearable pain. Others were placed in boxes with only their heads, hands and legs sticking out. Then hungry rats were placed in the boxes to gnaw upon their bodies. Some were nailed to the ceiling by their fingers or by their feet, and left hanging until they died of exhaustion. Others were chained to the floor and left hanging until they died of exhaustion. Others were chained to the floor and hot lead poured into their mouths. Many were tied to horses and dragged through the streets of the city, while Jewish mobs attacked them with rocks and kicked them to death. Christian mothers were taken to the public square and their babies snatched from their arms. A red Jewish terrorist would take the baby, hold it by the feet, head downward and demand that the Christian mother deny Christ. If she would not, he would toss the baby into the air, and another member of the mob would rush forward and catch it on the tip of his bayonet. Pregnant Christian women were chained to trees and their babies cut out of their bodies. There were many places of public execution in Russia during the days of the revolution, one of which was described by the American Rohrbach Commission: 'The whole cement floor of the execution hall of the Jewish Cheka of Kiev was flooded with blood; it formed a level of several inches. It was a horrible mixture of blood, brains and pieces of skull. All the walls were bespattered with blood. Pieces of brains and of scalps were sticking to them. A gutter of 25 centimeters wide by 25 centimeters deep and about 10 meters long was along its length full to the top with blood. Some bodies were disemboweled, others had limbs chopped off, some were literally hacked to pieces. Some had their eyes put out, the head, face and neck and trunk were covered with deep wounds. Further on, we found a corpse with a wedge driven into its chest. Some had no tongues. In a corner we discovered a quantity of dismembered arms and legs belonging to no bodies that we could locate.'" (Defender Magazine, October 1933)"

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The Theory of Jewish World Power (english)
Unknown 12:21am Tue May 28 '02

The documents most frequently mentioned by those who are interested in the theory of Jewish World Power rather than in the actual operation of that power in the world today, are those 24 documents known as "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion."
 http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=182920&group=webcast

"...In the First Protocol this paragraph appears:

"Already in ancient times we were the first to shout the words, 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,' among the people. These words have been repeated many times since by unconscious poll-parrots, flocking from all sides to this bait, with which they have ruined the -prosperity of the world and true personal freedom .... The presumably clever and intelligent Gentiles did not understand the symbolism of the uttered words; did not observe their contradiction in meaning; did not notice that in nature there is no equality ...."


"...Take for illustration these passages: * This from the First Protocol:

"Political freedom is an idea, not a fact. It is necessary to know how to apply this idea when there is need of a clever bait to gain the support of the people for one's party, if such a party has undertaken to defeat another party already in power. This task is made easier if the opponent has himself been infected by principles of freedom or so-called liberalism, and for the sake of the idea will yield some of his power."

Consider this from the Fifth Protocol:

"To obtain control over public opinion, it is first necessary to confuse it by the expression from various sides of so many conflicting opinions .... this is the first secret. The second secret consists in so increasing and intensifying the shortcomings of the people in their habits, passions and mode of living that no one will be able to collect himself in the chaos, and, consequently, people will lose all their mutual understanding. This measure will serve us also in breeding disagreement in all parties, in disintegrating all those collective forces which are still unwilling to submit to us and in discouraging all personal initiative which can in any way interfere with our undertaking."

And this from the Thirteenth Protocol:

".... and you may also notice that we seek approval, not for our acts, but for our words uttered in regard to one or another question. We always announce publicly that we are guided in all our measures by the hope and the conviction that we are serving the general good..."

"...The whole method of the Protocols may be described in one word, Disintegration. The undoing of what has been done, the creation of a long and hopeless interim in which attempts at reconstruction shall be baffled, and the gradual wearing down of public opinion and public confidence, until those who stand outside the created chaos shall insert their strong, calm hand to seize control-that is the whole method of procedure.

The Protocols distinctly declare that it is by means of the set of ideas which cluster around "democracy," that their first victory over public opinion was obtained. The idea is the weapon. And to be a weapon it must be an idea at variance with the natural trend of life. It must be a theory opposed to the facts of life. And no theory so opposed can be expected to take root and become the ruling factor, unless it appeals to the mind as reasonable, inspiring and good. The Truth frequently seems unreasonable; the Truth frequently is depressing; the Truth sometimes seems to be evil; but it has this eternal advantage, it is the Truth, and what is built thereon neither brings nor yields to confusion. This first step does not give the control of public opinion, but leads up to it. It is worthy to note that it is this sowing of "the poison of liberalism," as the Protocols name it, which comes first in order in those documents. Then, following upon that, the Protocols say:

"To obtain control over public opinion it is first necessary to confuse it."...
constructive critic = troll 28.May.2002 13:54

Jody Paulson

There's nothing constructive about this post. What effect are you trying to create by posting it? You want "serious" people not to post here. In effect, you want to use racist, inflammatory postings the same way Bush is using "Muslim extremist terrorists" -- as an excuse to destroy existing openness that appearently is detrimental to your agenda. And I'll wager Bill and you are both working for the same team -- perhaps you are even the same person. If people don't want to read that crap, they won't. So shut up already. We have a world to change, and we don't need censors like you to distract us.

Freedom is not License 28.May.2002 13:56

android9 android9@hotmail.com (Subject: agitprop)

The words at the top of the Portland newswire "comments" form reflect other IMC mission statements, not only for comments, but also for posting to the wire, etc:

"... a wide range of people and communities, rather than the narrow interests of the wealthy that the commercial media speaks for.

" news articles that you feel are appropriate to indymedia's goals, eg: social activitism, local communities, ecology, and sustainable, equitable culture. "

It seem to me that by trying too hard to be "diverse" and "inclusive", the door is left wide open for the brazen lies of fascists, capitalist enterprenteurs and all kinds of various "spiritual" scam artists to weasel into our venue and get up in our faces, spewing the very drivel indymedia is intended to avoid in news coverage.

Such nebulous terms need to be fortified with some more explicit criteria for what is "appropriate" for indymedia, such as "anti-racist, anti-sexist, and anti-profit." And how about "non-hierarchical", and "anti-authoritarian", and "fuck a whole bunch of religous hooey, too!"?

In the interests of "freedom", and to allow open discussion, inappropriate postings could be retained on a "hidden" page, for those who want to read them, but should not be imposed upon readers of the main newswire and features, who are looking for hard news.

Without qualifying criteria, vague platitudes like "social activism", etc. can be interpreted to include Aryan Nations, "Wise Use" swine, Libertarian Republicans, Moonies, or anyone else who claims to want to "save the world". Fuck That!

Their viewpoints have more than enough venues to spew their crap, and we should reject any argument that they have any "right" to invade our space.

Anarchy is not a "fuck-all, do whatever you want" kind of philosphy. It demands strict suppression of the Bourgeoisie and other counter-revolutionary tendencies, by coercion.

Think about it. Do you really believe people should be "free" to cut down all the trees, kill all the fish, treat people of color like shit, enslave women, etc. etc? Hell No! Would you resort to coercion, to force an end to such practices? Hell Yes!

Racist, sexist, profit-over-people, eco-raping "opinions" have been democratically determined to be politically incorrect, and should not be "tolerated". This is America, love it or leave it!

Bogus, posturing, romantic idealistist "anarchists" who recoil at such ugly terms like "strict", "suppression", and "coercion" are self-indulgent fools, without a clue.

Sympathy for "oppressed" bourgeois, capitalist and "spiritual" scammers, etc. is an idiotic betrayal of the true colors of those vascillating apologists who usually have ulterior motives unrelated to the stated purpose of indymedia, or are so voluntarily ignorant, naive, deluded and shitheaded as to actually believe our explicitly, adamantly self-sworn enemies are, can be, or should be considered our friends.

Death to Fascism, Capitalism, and all forms of unjust, irrational anti-democratic social, economic and cultural oppression! Now THAT would be true freedom!

Jody Paulson 28.May.2002 14:43

constructive critic

I asked whether contributing to media that is also providing a platform for hate and deception doesn't serve to legitimize this material. Seen through your lenses this becomes, "you want "serious" people not to post here". That's weird, I did not use the word, serious at all but that's the one in quotes. I suppose this is to demonstrate irony. What I posted is factual and transparent, the racist, inflammatory posts I quoted are the problem and the fact that I questioned providing a platform for them somehow makes me a "Troll". You then compare me to Bush and accuse me of "working for the same team' as one of the bigots. You have nothing to say about the content of what I said or the question I posed, instead you attacked my motives with pure conjecture and baseless speculation and of course told me to shut up. You think this is the way to change the world?

By the way, wasn't it you that followed up the A20 with an extensive post entitled "How We Blew It"? Perhaps I have you confused with someone else.

anarchy malarchy 29.May.2002 22:32

lll

"Anarchy is not a "fuck-all, do whatever you want" kind of philosphy. It demands strict suppression of the Bourgeoisie and other counter-revolutionary tendencies, by coercion."

fucking classic. anyone read Animal Farm lately?

Typical hysterical illness 31.May.2002 11:42

android9 android9@hotmail.com

ill seems to imply that I am a pig...a fucking classic response from misanthropic bourgeois ultra-individualist anti-communist "anarchists" like the "GA" primitivist chaoticists and other elitist reactionary counter-revolutionary "libertarian" tendencies. Fuck off, COINTELPRO pig-bait.

You can scream bloody murder over the threat to your class privilege, but only real democracy can wield legitimate revolutionary justice, genuinely in the public interest, for peace, to save the planet.

All Power to the People! Death to Fascism!