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Now we are told that electronic communication intercepts reflect "increased traffic" between "al Qaida" cells, indicating these cells may be planning a new wave of attacks. The intercepts, it is said, are comparable to intelligence that was being acquired in the weeks leading up to 9-11.
Now we are told that electronic communication intercepts reflect "increased traffic" between "al Qaida" cells, indicating these cells may be planning a new wave of attacks. The intercepts, it is said, are comparable to intelligence that was being acquired in the weeks leading up to 9-11.

I can't help but wonder why they're telling us this - what purpose does it serve apart from scaring the hell out of everyone, silencing the new-found voices of the administration's critics, deflecting attention from an embarrassing string of revelations about what the Bush team knew in advance of 9-11, and laying the groundwork for further military actions somewhere in the world?

A well-known fact about Project Echelon and similar electronic intelligence gathering is that the ability to eavesdrop on voice and data communications worldwide exists side-by-side wih the ability to identify the source and exact geographic location of each transmission. Once a suspect communication is identified and analyzed it requires only a little more correlation of data to discover the source and location. It stretches the imagination to think that intercepts identified as being from "al Qaida" cells would not long ago have been traced to their points of origin and appropriate actions taken.

At least that is what could be expected to happen if "communications intercepts" consistent with a real threat actually existed at all.
You REALLY want answers? 20.May.2002 09:27

Mike stepbystepfarm@shaysnet.com

Your questions are the result of possibly unwarranted assumptions.

"Military intelligence" (oxymoron?) may indeed be able to conclude "something must be up" just from an increase of certain kinds of communications traffic even if unable to decode (or only partially decode) the messages. Being able to "watch" communications going on does not necessarily allow one to intercept the persons communicating, not if the agents are competent. But you won't believe me unless I give you an example, right?

OK, suppose IndyMedia is being used for the purpose. The agents are sent out with a list of possible operations and the code phrases to identify them (ie: both themsleves and the operations). They watch here (say on the Portland site) for a story posted by "XYZ" in which a pharase appears indicating the message is intended for them and the phrase indicating their orders.

The intelligence service may have identified that postings by "XYZ" are orders to agents in the field. But they can't get to "XYZ" (who isn't located in a friendly country). And they certainly can't identify who is receiving the messages (other than knowing within the set of all viewers of Portland IndyMedia -- assuming they had THOSE logs). But they certainly could notice the increase in traffic and perhaps even details like the agent whose ID phrase is "When will the stinking Zionist ever learn they can't win?" was sent seven messages last month.

re: You REALLY want answers? 20.May.2002 11:59

Just the facts

Mike, you are the epitome of the subject of this article:

 http://portland.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=11175&group=webcast

Impending Terrorist Attacks 21.May.2002 04:47

Joseph

Cheney's 'warning' is a reminder to keep focused on the issues this 'government' tells you are important to you, and tells you that you 'had better' believe what Cheney and the 'others' tell you; frankly, I believe it to be a thinly veiled threat; either we toe the line and back off or we get hit again.

Payday 21.May.2002 10:01

Zorro

Focusing on the time just since WWII. The American people have, with little objection, watched their government strong arm, if not enough infiltrate, if not enough assassinate, if not enough invade, if not enough terror bomb anyone who opposes the dictates of business. At some time people in the future will strike back. The future is here. Violence is wrong, it is wrong globally. Americans are shitting in their pants because they know they have it coming. Stop your government from continuing the behavior of death. Peace, Peace will come , let it begin with thee.

Hear no EVIL, Speak no EVIL, You Must OBEY! 21.May.2002 10:55

Anne Abraham

the more questions that get asked of the 911 attacks the more the Bush Administration threatens everyone ,especially the people living in the United States.It ain't thin and it ain't veiled,it is a very OVERT orquestrated, concise threat to the people in America and the World. It's motive is to control and silence the masses, How dare you ask questions! Just OBEY!