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Air Defences stood down on 9 11

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<DT><CENTER><B><FONT SIZE=+4>Air Defenses Stood Down On 911<BR>
AFTER ATC Alerts Given<BR>
</FONT></B><FONT SIZE=+1>By R. Anderson</FONT></CENTER>
<DT><CENTER><FONT SIZE=+1> the_top_view@hotmail.com</FONT></CENTER>
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<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>** Dozens of air bases were within MINUTES of BOTH 9.11
targets **</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>There is now irrefutable evidence which proves massive
complicity on the part of the highest levels of government -- along with
numerous accomplices and co-conspirators in the military, intelligence
and administrative sectors -- in the September 11 atrocities perpetrated
against the American people.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>Here's the deal.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>It is a FACT that DOZENS of Air Force and Air National
Guard bases are located within ten to thirty minutes intercept time of
BOTH 9.11 target locations. (List of bases provided below.)</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>It is a FACT that most of these installations have, at
the ready, fighter jets such as F-16s to be scrambled on a MOMENT's NOTICE,
for intercepting troubled or problem aircraft.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>It is a FACT that air defense units DID receive alerts
from Air Traffic Controllers and FAA officials on a number of aircraft
across the East Coast which had broken communications and deviated radically
from established flight paths on the morning of September 11.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>It is a FACT that standard intercept procedures for dealing
with these kinds of situations ARE TOTALLY ESTABLISHED, IN FORCE and ON-LINE
in these United States 365 days a year, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>&lt;&lt; Regarding rules governing IFR requirements,
see FAA Order 7400.2E 'Procedures for Handling Airspace Matters,' Effective
Date: December 7, 2000 (Includes Change 1, effective July 7, 2001), Chapter
14-1-2. Full text posted at:  http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIR/air1401.html#14-1-2FAA</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>&lt;&lt;Guide to Basic Flight Information and Air Traffic
Control (ATC) Procedures,' (Includes Change 3, Effective: July 12, 2001)
Chapter 5-6-4 &quot;Interception Signals&quot; Full text posted at:  http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/Chap5/aim0506.html#5-6-4</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>&lt;&lt;FAA Order 7110.65M 'Air Traffic Control' (Includes
Change 3, Effective: July 12, 2001), Chapter 10-2-5 &quot;Emergency Situations&quot;
Full text posted at:  http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/ATC/Chp10/atc1002.html#10-2-5</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>&lt;&lt;FAA Order 7110.65M 'Air Traffic Control' (Includes
Change 3, Effective: July 12, 2001), Chapter 10-1-1 &quot;Emergency Determinations&quot;
Full text posted at:  http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/ATC/Chp10/atc1001.html#10-1-1</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>&lt;&lt;FAA Order 7610.4J 'Special Military Operations'
(Effective Date: November 3, 1998; Includes: Change 1, effective July 3,
2000; Change 2, effective July 12, 2001), Chapter 4, Section 5, &quot;Air
Defense Liaison Officers (ADLO's)&quot; Full text posted at:  http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/MIL/Ch4/mil0405.html#Section%205</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>&lt;&lt;FAA Order 7610.4J 'Special Military Operations'
(Effective Date: November 3, 1998; Includes: Change 1, effective July 3,
2000; Change 2, effective July 12, 2001), Chapter 7, Section 1-2, &quot;Escort
of Hijacked Aircraft: Requests for Service&quot; Full text posted at:  http://faa.gov/ATpubs/MIL/Ch7/mil0701.html#7-1-2</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>&lt;&lt;'Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Instruction
3610.01A,' 1 June 2001, &quot;Aircraft Piracy (Hijacking) and Destruction
of Derelict Airborne Objects,&quot; 4. Policy (page 1) PDF available at:
 http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf Backup at:  http://emperors-clothes.com/9-11backups/3610_01a.pdf</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>&lt;&lt;For a clear and detailed description of flight
plans, fixes, and Air Traffic Control, see: 'Direct-To Requirements' by
Gregory Dennis and Emina Torlak at:  http://sdg.lcs.mit.edu/atc/D2Requirements.htm</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>It is a FACT that Air National Guard and Air Force air
defense units of the United States WERE PROHIBITED from carrying out their
STANDARD INTERCEPT PROCEDURES as detailed above on the morning of 9.11;
AFTER they had received the alerts from ATC and FAA.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>Absolutely NO executive-level input of ANY KIND is required
for standard intercepts to be scrambled.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>There was NO indication in any alerts received by air
defense units that &quot;SHOOT-DOWNS&quot; may be required as opposed to
intercepts -- i.e.; that the planes were definitely under control of &quot;hostile&quot;
forces -- because ATC/FAA could NOT have KNOWN that.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>When the first alerts were received from Air Traffic
Control, ALL that air defense units were required to do was scramble STANDARD
interceptors to make contact with the incommunicado and off-course jets.
F-16s and other fighter planes WOULD HAVE overtaken EVERY SINGLE HIJACKED
PLANE on September 11, BEFORE they had reached their targets! (See below
for locations of air bases.)</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>IF, at the time of interception, it was determined the
aircraft were under hostile control and likely to impact targets, high-level
air defense commanders at the Pentagon's National Military Command Center
(NMCC) are FULLY AUTHORIZED under existing and established regulations
and procedures to authorize a shoot-down,. in order to PROTECT THE UNITED
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>Yet air defense units that were READY AND WAITING on
9.11 at DOZENS of nearby installations were ordered NOT to scramble interceptors:
they were ordered to stand down from carrying out even the FIRST STAGE
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>These orders came from the executive office of the president
as well as from complicit individuals in the aforementioned NMCC.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>There is NO QUESTION that if these interceptors had been
scrambled AT THE TIME alerts were received, they would have intercepted
the hijacked planes before targets were approached IN EVERY INSTANCE.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>And there is NO WAY that the office of the President
or the NMCC could have KNOWN through any standard means that these incommunicado
flights required anything OTHER than standard interceptions, because ATC
and FAA alerts DID NOT relay any such information. The alerts simply requested
that STANDARD INTERCEPT PROCEDURES be implemented and that interceptors
be scrambled forthwith.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>Some disingenuous excuse-makers say things like: &quot;Well,
there was no air defense response because the U.S. had NO PROCEDURES for
dealing with such 'attacks,' because the U.S. had never BEEN 'attacked'
this way before.&quot;</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>This sheer, complete nonsense: fully established procedures
for dealing with intercepts of ALL KINDS, including of hostile aircraft,
existed on September 11, as detailed above.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>Furthermore: when those first alerts were received from
ATC/FAA, there was no MENTION of any &quot;attack&quot; and no NEED for
&quot;unusual&quot; procedures. There was only a need for STANDARD, FIRST-STAGE
INTERCEPTIONS to be scrambled, and higher authorities PREVENTED that.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>Other disingenuous excuse-makers THEN say: &quot;Well,
of COURSE higher authorities stepped in, because they had to see what was
going on with the whole situation, as 'America was under attack.' &quot;</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>AGAIN: America was NOT &quot;under attack&quot; when
those first alerts were received; certainly ATC and FAA had NO WAY of knowing
so early in the proceedings that the jets which had broken communications
and gone off-course were part of any &quot;attack.&quot;</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>So WHY did the executive branch and high-level military
authorities DELIBERATELY order the air defense interceptors to STAND DOWN?
NOBODY could have known that early in the proceedings that 'America was
under attack&quot;... or COULD they have known?</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>OBVIOUSLY, those who ordered the stand-down DID know
that early in the proceedings that &quot;America was under attack&quot;
because they were COMPLICIT in the attack, and took ALL POSSIBLE STEPS
to ENSURE that the attack WOULD TAKE PLACE, unimpeded by the air defense
of the United States.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>True patriots in this land who have SWORN to protect
and defend our Republic MUST consider these irrefutable FACTS and set about
unswerevingly to bring these complicit individuals to justice. ___</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>From: AC Subject: USAF ON 11/9/01 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001
02:19:23 -0600</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>As i may have told you long ago, i am a tyro at questioning
the state. and such a task is not my principal activity. i am a small,
specialty manufacturer who has gotten caught up in being disgusted by my
government's lies. and that has caused me to look at certain events more
closely than those who are thought to be responsible for that scrutiny.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>as you know by now, i have also been outraged by the
monstrous lies that the government has foisted on the public, with the
cooperation of the press, concerning the failure of the us military to
interdict and prevent the murderously damaging conclusion of 3 or 4 commercial
airliners on 11/9/01.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>just by searching NYT archives, i found the policy and
the methodology for intercepting a runaway Lear 35[Payne Stewart's charter].
the story clearly establishes that F16's were scrambled to intercept this
bizjet within 25 minutes of its failure to report to controllers upon its
reaching its cleared alttitude of 39,000 ft. These F16's were scrambled
ONLY upon the loss of a radio communication: the transponder never ceased
to function.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>the way i view the intercept, the F16 out of Eglin, 500
miles behind the lear 35, travelling at its posted max speed, mach 2+,
caught the lear 35 in 30 minutes.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>for all of us who care about relating how the attempted
coup was facilitated, and care to reveal 11/9/01 as a coup for posterity,
then it seems to me essential that this technical record be established...an
F16 can catch a 767 within 30 minutes [if it is ordered to do so].</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>with that understanding, since no one else has done it,
i thought it would be of interest to see how many air force [including
air national guard, air force reserve] facilities might have been within
500 miles of the &quot;terror&quot; airliners on 11/9/01.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>here are the facilities that i found on the USAF website[s].</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>1. Andrews AFB [11 miles SE of DC].</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>2. Bolling AFB [3 miles south of US CAPITOL].</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>3. Dover AFB [3 miles southeast of Dover, Delaware]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>4. Hanscom AFB [17 miles northwest of Boston]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>5. Langley AFB [3 miles north of Hampton, VA]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>6. McGuire AFB [18 miles southeast of Trenton,NJ]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>these are the major, active AIR FORCE facilities that
could have launched intercepts with the commandeered airliners. all of
them, if ordered in a timely fashion, could have intercepted and prevented
the collisions with the WTC and the Pentagon.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>then there are these minor, active AIR FORCE facilities.
i don't know how they function, but for the sake of history, let us note
their existence within the umbrella of intercept before any collision with
civilans could occur.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>7. Cape Cod, MA AFS</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>8. New Boston, NH AFS</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>and then there are the AIR NATIONAL GUARD and AIR FORCE
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>9. Atlantic City Airport, NJ [10 miles west of Atlantic
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>10. Barnes Municipal Airport, MA [3 miles northwest of
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>11. Bradley International Airport, Conn [Windsor Locks]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>12. Byrd Field, VA [4 miles southeast of Richmond]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>13. Eastern West Virginia Regional Airport [4 miles south
of Martinsburg]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>14. Frances S. Gabreski Airport, NY [Westhampton Beach]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>15. Greater Pittsburgh International Airport, PA [15
miles nw of Pittsburgh]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>16. Harrisburg International Airport, PA [10 miles east
of Harrisburg]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>17. Martin State Airport, MD [8 miles east of Baltimore]
18. New Castle County Airport, DE [5 miles south of Wilmington]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>19. Otis ANGB, MA [7 miles northeast of Falmouth]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>20. Pease ANGS, NH [Portsmouth]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>21. Quonset State Airport, RI [Providence]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>22. Rickenbacker ANGB, OH [Columbus, Oh]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>23. Stewart International Airport, NY [Newburgh, NY]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>24. Westover ARB, MA [5 miles northeast of Chicopee]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>25. Willow Grove Naval Air Station, PA [14 miles north
of Philadelphia]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>26 Yeager Airport, WVA [4 miles northeast of Charleston]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>27. Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport ARS, OH [16 miles
north of Youngstown]</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>i am not so naive as to think that all of these installations
were prepared to put up intercept, or take-down aircraft that morning.
but some number of them may have been able to do that.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>and the question has to be, why didn't they? because
all that were prepared to intercept and terminate could have done so. what
prevented them from even launching intercept aircraft?</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>that is the question. have we just watched a 7 DAYS IN
MAY? wouldn't you like to see the orders that caused all of these aircraft
to stand down?</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>i sure would. because based on the Payne Stewart story,
such orders had to have been given. as has been admitted, the automatic
response would ordinarily be to intercept and to shoot down.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>and based on the Payne Stewart story, we can only conclude
that elements within our government, or the shadow government behind it,
prevented the intercept and shootdown of the terrorist-commandeered airliners.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>can that be viewed as anything other than treason?</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>there, i have said it. anyone care to contest that appraisal?
i invite the argument.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>i regret that i gave you some reason to doubt the thoroughness
of my thinking.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>wishing you a peaceful holiday season.</FONT>
<DT><FONT SIZE=+1>ace<BR>
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Can it? (be viewed otherwise) 23.Dec.2001 16:05

Mike stepbystepfarm@shaysnet.com

Can a decision not to shoot down the planes be viewed as "other than treason"?

SURE --- All you have to do is consider the consequences to the country if that had been done (ie: if they had been shot down BEFORE anybody anywhere had used hijacked airliners as missiles).

Less damage to the country? Well that depends upon one's point of view, Less physical damage, sure, but less total damage? That's NOT so obvious. Less success for the attackers? That also is less clear.

My prediciton -- HAD the airliners been intercepted and shot down the US would have been embroiled in internal political squabbling, paralyzed and taking no role in international affairs, probably for at least several years. Conceivably not even less American lives lost (less on day one, but just how bad would the following turmoil get).

it is a damning fact - no two ways about it 23.Dec.2001 17:50


you miss the point completely

jets must be scrambled

it takes an order to stop it

who would order jets NOT to scramble not knowing the situation?

it is absurd to suggest any military person would want to have no options, rather than options

scrambling jets does not mean any further action must be taken, but not scrambling jets means no further action could be taken

and if the government knew nothing about the plans that were to unfold, then the most likely scenario was regular hijackings, which would certainly indicate a scramble

though again, remember that scrambling jets is not a decision that must be made, it is automatic and a decision not to scramble must be made, and any such decision would not be taken without knowing something of what is happening

and if foreknowledge was there, then the decision to stop a scramble was an utter betrayal of the american people

there is no good way to spin this one - it is damning evidence

tastes like treason 23.Dec.2001 22:15

Rollie M.

Smells like treason.

Sounds like treason.

Looks like treason.

Feels like treason.

Yep it's treason.

It was treason to allow passenger planes to be used as missiles to destroy American lives, both those in the buildings and those left on the ground, some mourning loved ones, others watching the remains of their liberty crumble. That the event was used to allow us to invade a foreign county, in which we had been fairly recently denied permission to build a pipeline, is not less treasonous but more. As was the flouting of the Constitution during the events revealed during the Iran Contra hearings. As is the cynical, big-business-as-usual, anti-patriotic introduction of the 300+ Patriot Bill within a week of the 9-11 production.

Yes, it's treason. The most horrific, anti-American, corrosive sort of treason. Treason by those who have sworn to protect and work for the good of the citizens of this country.