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Volksfront- Re: Indymedia Anti-Racist Response

Despite reactionary fascist elements on this site, we have kept our posts clean and non-derogatory.
Volksfront- Re: Indymedia Anti-Racist Response
Volksfront- Re: Indymedia Anti-Racist Response
If Indymedia would like to stop posting here, someone from Indymedia simply needs to contact us and ask to stop. Although certain persons who seem to be enveloped with hate and fear of us, we have kept our posts clean and non-derogatory. To clarify a common misconception, we are not "White Supremacists". We believe all cultures and races are beautiful and worthy of existence. We do not seek to subjegate others nor will we tolerate dominance by them. It is quite apparent, to me at least, that we believe more in diversity and equality than most of our opponents who post remarks on here. I'd also like to note, that VF did not post on here until other were commenting on our group and alledged activities. We only began posting in response to their slander and untruths. If the VF name had not been used so much on here we'd never of found this website in the first place. We have not used one racial slur or remark denigrating other races or cultures. If Indymedia wishes us to no longer post on this site, simply email  volksfront@hotmail.com (Our collective Account used by all members) and we will cease immediately. This is after all "your" site and we will respect your wishes. We can speak for independents or other groups but give our word there will be no more VF posts if you ask us not too. Have a nice day, we will cease further postings until we here from Indymedia directors.

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hiya, racist 23.Dec.2001 11:24

pacific northwesterner

This is an open publishing newswire, nobody is going to stop you from posting your ignorant drivel.

Know in advance that you will never, ever have a aryan-only pacific northwest. Your pathetic dream of some "northwest imperative" sickens the vast majority of human beings. Know in advance that every time you place an item on this newswire, your vile fantasies will be taunted, countered, and generally picked-at like the scabs they are.

response to volksfront 23.Dec.2001 11:49

Jeremy David Stolen fellowtraveler@riseup.net

I would like to address your final remarks: "This is after all "your" site and we will respect your wishes. We can speak for independents or other groups but give our word there will be no more VF posts if you ask us not too. Have a nice day, we will cease further postings until we here from Indymedia directors."

First of all, I would like to say that, as someone who has been a contributor to Indymedia for a year and a half (as a writer, photographer, organizer, and videographer) that Indymedia is not "my" site or "your" site or "our" (those who might loosely be labeled as "progressive" or "anti-corporate globalization activists") site. Indymedia is not and cannot be owned by anyone. Indymedia is nobody and everybody. You, as a poster from/for Volksfront, own this site as much as anyone else -- that is, not at all.

Secondly, you say "there will be no more VF posts if you ask us not too" and then say "we will cease further postings until we here from Indymedia directors". Which one is it? Those are contradictory statements.

I hope that no one takes the position of presenting themselves as owners or directors of Indymedia and then asks you to stop posting. That would be antithical to the Indymedia concept. I am saying here and now that I do not believe anyone has the right to call themselves "Indymedia directors". If some statement comes out from people presenting themselves in that way, I will come out against their statement not for its content, but because I adamantly believe that no one has the right to take such ownership.

It is up to you whether or not you want to post to Indymedia. No one can tell you to post or not post. The Volksfront posts that I have read and seen here (and I don't know if I have seen all of them) are not posts that can be removed under the criteria of the current editorial policy, and I am glad that the policy has been followed.

I support open transparent forums such as Indymedia in which people can discuss their views publicly. I believe that everyone can learn from such exchanges.

Volksfront vernacular 23.Dec.2001 15:52

questioning girl

From Sun Dec 23 '01 Post: Volksfront- Re: Indymedia Anti-Racist Response


"We believe all cultures and races are beautiful and worthy of existence"

"...we have kept our posts clean and non-derogatory."

"We have not used one racial slur or remark denigrating other races or cultures"

From Sat Dec 22 '01 Post"

"Hang Mumia the Murdering Scum! Remember Daniel Faulkner!"

"While every cheers for the murdering bastard mumia, daniel faulkner and his family are forgotten, MUMIA MUST DIE, that worthless piece of shit"
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just one example of your un-truths in print. if all cultures are "beautiful and worthy of existence", then why are you taking this particular incidence with a man of a particualr race and actually refuting what even the feds are (now) saying re mumia's innocence?

Is the language that you use in the remark below "clean and non-derogatory" or without it's "racial slur or remark denigrating other races or cultures":

"Hang Mumia the Murdering Scum! Remember Daniel Faulkner!" AND
"While every cheers for the murdering bastard mumia, daniel faulkner and his family are forgotten, MUMIA MUST DIE, that worthless piece of shit"


all sounds a bit contradictory to me...

nazis not welcome here 24.Dec.2001 15:38

randi

My understanding is that indy media will not remove your posts or prevent you from posting. That does not mean your posts are welcome here. Racist propaganda will never be welcomed into any community of which I consider myself a part. If such a the community decided they will sanction a racist presence, I will cease to be a part of that community. Your posts will continue to be ignored or ridiculed.